Why does Alf Landon ally with fascism and make the CSA?

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the only way to become fascist is with alf landon, in the dlc man the guns so why does he do this? He wasnt a Silver Legion Supporter irl Right? And I dont think he was a CSA supporter either right? Wasnt the Silver Legion Based in Washington? Why would they like the csa

[Lightsong]

In the European political sphere, extreme right=fascism. There's no hidden message or anything behind it. It's just alt history stuff.

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but alf landon was a progressive conservative, he even supported some of FDR's New Deal but didnt like social security, he would just be a center right fiscal republican.

Originally posted by Lightsong:

In the European political sphere, extreme right=fascism. There's no hidden message or anything behind it. It's just alt history stuff.

[Lightsong]

It's just alt history stuff

[coffeemm8]

You can still stay democratic with Alf Landon though right?

[Lightsong]

Originally posted by eindringling:

You can still stay democratic with Alf Landon though right?

Yes

[76561198051514398]

Originally posted by owo:

the only way to become fascist is with alf landon, in the dlc man the guns so why does he do this? He wasnt a Silver Legion Supporter irl Right? And I dont think he was a CSA supporter either right? Wasnt the Silver Legion Based in Washington? Why would they like the csa

The game only has 4 political ideologies, it's alt history, get over it.

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Originally posted by JohnTheGreat:

Originally posted by owo:

the only way to become fascist is with alf landon, in the dlc man the guns so why does he do this? He wasnt a Silver Legion Supporter irl Right? And I dont think he was a CSA supporter either right? Wasnt the Silver Legion Based in Washington? Why would they like the csa

The game only has 4 political ideologies, it's alt history, get over it.

shut up ur not my m o m

[Fritz Bittenfeld]

Because he is a republican. They are all evil kkk racists. I'm just glad Sweden, the only redeeming nation in Europe, is telling the truth.

[Gorgo Primus]

PI is lazy as hell and only cares about memes and appealing to a weird Lost Causers is why. Alf would have taken an awful lot to become pro-Silver Shirt and the Silver Shirts were 100% anti-CSA and standard white US nationalists. Their leader Pelley, for example, thought the entire CSA was a Jewish-French conspiracy to destroy the US.

[-=Prepper_Jack=-]

Originally posted by Burke:

Because Europeans don't understand US politics and base their knowledge of it on CNN. They don't understand that it was Republicans who ended slavery, gave women the right to vote and ended the segregation period in the 60s with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

True, but many Republicans in the game era fell firmly in what we might deem "paleoconservative" ideology, and are known as the "old right". They were generally anti-war, pro-tariffs, anti-immigration, largely anti-federalist, and full blown classical liberals. They were also highly opposed to Progressives and the New Deal.

It's probably the anti-immigration and anti-leftist sentiment that makes Europeans believe that Republicans of the era were somehow aligned with fascist ideology, when it couldn't be further from the truth. Part of this misconception is because Europeans in large, I have noticed, have little exposure to classical liberal thought. This is also a growing trend within the United States, of course, due to an overwhelmingly leftist academic environment.

To anyone who has studied it to any extent, there is little real difference between Fascism, National Socialism, and Communism, outside propaganda and wordplay. They're all centrally planned economies that intrude on every aspect of a citizens life, and at the core they were all founded on Marxist principles. Fascism only pretends to let people have private businesses. If you regulate everything they do, then you have control, and control is a synonym of ownerhsip. Mussolini was a full blown and lifelong communist before rejecting the globalist aspect of it. Stalin democided minorities with no hesitation, and was also more of a nationalist than a globalist.

If anything, the path to fascism should lie in the FDR route. He openly praised Mussolini and Fascism on multiple occasions, as did his advisors and many in his part. He, like Woodrow Wilson before him, was happily instituting similar Marxist systems and programs. The central bank was a pillar of Marx's plan, and the Federal Reserve was instituted in 1913 by Wilson. Progressive tax rates (another key part) was put in place shortly thereafter. FDR put in place a lot of the rest.

Progressives of the era were basically just Fascists with a different name. Even with the racial stuff.

[nicovallejos]

Originally posted by owo:

the only way to become fascist is with alf landon, in the dlc man the guns so why does he do this? He wasnt a Silver Legion Supporter irl Right? And I dont think he was a CSA supporter either right? Wasnt the Silver Legion Based in Washington? Why would they like the csa

I guess Douglas MacArthur is the Caesar of America, which makes him the president if the ideology is non-aligned or fascist. In my gameplay, MacArthur leads the Confederates (aka the Loyalists). As the Germans are on the verge of victory against USSR, he decided to take the gambit and declare war on Denmark; which resulted in him earning a wrath from Germany (particularly the Central European Alliance) as well as from the Allies (UK).

[Fritz Bittenfeld]

Originally posted by Burke:

Because Europeans don't understand US politics and base their knowledge of it on CNN. They don't understand that it was Republicans who ended slavery, gave women the right to vote and ended the segregation period in the 60s with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Prove this. As a European refugee I see no evidence

[SupremeLeaderPie]

Originally posted by Sallah Mohammed Faisel el-Kahir:

Originally posted by Burke:

Because Europeans don't understand US politics and base their knowledge of it on CNN. They don't understand that it was Republicans who ended slavery, gave women the right to vote and ended the segregation period in the 60s with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Prove this. As a European refugee I see no evidence

open a history book.

[Lightsong]

Originally posted by Sallah Mohammed Faisel el-Kahir:

Originally posted by Burke:

Because Europeans don't understand US politics and base their knowledge of it on CNN. They don't understand that it was Republicans who ended slavery, gave women the right to vote and ended the segregation period in the 60s with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Prove this. As a European refugee I see no evidence

A cursory look at conservative/right politics vs conservative/right politics of USA vs Europe proves this. Rhetoric wise, conservative politics in USA is anti wealth redistribution policies of almost every kind, pro capatalism, etc. European conseratives, are still quite pro wealth redistribution, but are more concerned with national identity, social fabric instead. These are generalizations, but basically as malovane said. USA conservative politics are rooted in classical liberalism, unlike European.

[bb 80]

Jesus Christ, where do these right wing vultures come from?? Do they just search through the forums to push their agenda??