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Kaiserreich: Winning the civil war
How do I win the civil war in Kaiserreich as the USA? Its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible, in previous patches it was easier but now it's extremely difficult for me. Does anyone have any advice?
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drewbstar Jan 5, 2019 @ 10:19pm 
Who are you playing as? What actions are you taking before the war?
Admiral Walrus Jan 6, 2019 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by Admiral Walrus:
Make a fall back line from the western nothern border (The edge of montana? or something) to the south of Texas near mexico, you'll only deal with PS while the other two kill eachother, you also would need to let DC fall as your troops will suffer attrition, if California is taken then you should be fine. As for the troops in DC, the port in the south of texas should allow you to get them there from DC, as long as you have a port you can get to.
Last edited by Admiral Walrus; Jan 6, 2019 @ 5:28am
George W. Bush Jan 6, 2019 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by drewbstar:
Who are you playing as? What actions are you taking before the war?
I probably should've been more specific, but I'm playing as macarthur's america. Before the war i'd completed the airforce national focus tree and had all my units garrisoned in Kansas. My airforce was all in the midwest and my navy was either all docked in california, texas or Norfolk
George W. Bush Jan 6, 2019 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by Admiral Walrus:
Originally posted by Admiral Walrus:
Make a fall back line from the western nothern border (The edge of montana? or something) to the south of Texas near mexico, you'll only deal with PS while the other two kill eachother, you also would need to let DC fall as your troops will suffer attrition, if California is taken then you should be fine. As for the troops in DC, the port in the south of texas should allow you to get them there from DC, as long as you have a port you can get to.
I've been trying that but it's difficult af to get ALL those divisions west without the CSA/AUS blocking the 2 corridors in Missouri and Virginia
drewbstar Jan 6, 2019 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by AAAAAAAAA:
Originally posted by Admiral Walrus:
I've been trying that but it's difficult af to get ALL those divisions west without the CSA/AUS blocking the 2 corridors in Missouri and Virginia
Let them. Use your ports.

Personally, I hold on to DC. Pull all the central/west forces to Texas, anything to the east into a line around DC/MD/VA.

The key to winning as MacArthur is to let the syndies and longists fight each other as much as possible. The PSA is annoying, but lacks manpower something awful. Hold the South Texas river. Your life depends on it. The oil means trade and production. The port means sea access, as you've got a navy (unlike the rest of the USA).

Texas is pretty close to Louisiana. A strong push can cut off the south 2.0's capital and starve their troops. But, you don't want the syndies to push too hard, and you need huey to hold them off, so keep that in mind.

Use your navy, use your ports. Launch naval invasions if you want. Get shore bombardments. It's really a logistical war. How well you can conserve manpower, equipment, and manage your air forces/navy.
Don't forget to rush national guards for the core bonus.

Also, I don't grab much in terms of national focuses until after the split. The -10 day bonus is a little nice, plus the extra political power can be helpful, I think.
George W. Bush Jan 6, 2019 @ 8:48am 
Originally posted by drewbstar:
Originally posted by AAAAAAAAA:
I've been trying that but it's difficult af to get ALL those divisions west without the CSA/AUS blocking the 2 corridors in Missouri and Virginia
Let them. Use your ports.

Personally, I hold on to DC. Pull all the central/west forces to Texas, anything to the east into a line around DC/MD/VA.

The key to winning as MacArthur is to let the syndies and longists fight each other as much as possible. The PSA is annoying, but lacks manpower something awful. Hold the South Texas river. Your life depends on it. The oil means trade and production. The port means sea access, as you've got a navy (unlike the rest of the USA).

Texas is pretty close to Louisiana. A strong push can cut off the south 2.0's capital and starve their troops. But, you don't want the syndies to push too hard, and you need huey to hold them off, so keep that in mind.

Use your navy, use your ports. Launch naval invasions if you want. Get shore bombardments. It's really a logistical war. How well you can conserve manpower, equipment, and manage your air forces/navy.
Don't forget to rush national guards for the core bonus.

Also, I don't grab much in terms of national focuses until after the split. The -10 day bonus is a little nice, plus the extra political power can be helpful, I think.
What about supplies? If i put all my eastern forces in DC/MD/VA the supplies get low
Admiral Walrus Jan 6, 2019 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by AAAAAAAAA:
Originally posted by drewbstar:
Let them. Use your ports.

Personally, I hold on to DC. Pull all the central/west forces to Texas, anything to the east into a line around DC/MD/VA.

The key to winning as MacArthur is to let the syndies and longists fight each other as much as possible. The PSA is annoying, but lacks manpower something awful. Hold the South Texas river. Your life depends on it. The oil means trade and production. The port means sea access, as you've got a navy (unlike the rest of the USA).

Texas is pretty close to Louisiana. A strong push can cut off the south 2.0's capital and starve their troops. But, you don't want the syndies to push too hard, and you need huey to hold them off, so keep that in mind.

Use your navy, use your ports. Launch naval invasions if you want. Get shore bombardments. It's really a logistical war. How well you can conserve manpower, equipment, and manage your air forces/navy.
Don't forget to rush national guards for the core bonus.

Also, I don't grab much in terms of national focuses until after the split. The -10 day bonus is a little nice, plus the extra political power can be helpful, I think.
What about supplies? If i put all my eastern forces in DC/MD/VA the supplies get low


Nope, Supplies/Attrition come from the capital, not industrial centers. Effectively, if DC falls, the US capital moves to San francisco or denver, depending on what you hold. and the western forces get their supplies.
George W. Bush Jan 6, 2019 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by drewbstar:
Originally posted by AAAAAAAAA:
I've been trying that but it's difficult af to get ALL those divisions west without the CSA/AUS blocking the 2 corridors in Missouri and Virginia
Let them. Use your ports.

Personally, I hold on to DC. Pull all the central/west forces to Texas, anything to the east into a line around DC/MD/VA.

The key to winning as MacArthur is to let the syndies and longists fight each other as much as possible. The PSA is annoying, but lacks manpower something awful. Hold the South Texas river. Your life depends on it. The oil means trade and production. The port means sea access, as you've got a navy (unlike the rest of the USA).

Texas is pretty close to Louisiana. A strong push can cut off the south 2.0's capital and starve their troops. But, you don't want the syndies to push too hard, and you need huey to hold them off, so keep that in mind.

Use your navy, use your ports. Launch naval invasions if you want. Get shore bombardments. It's really a logistical war. How well you can conserve manpower, equipment, and manage your air forces/navy.
Don't forget to rush national guards for the core bonus.

Also, I don't grab much in terms of national focuses until after the split. The -10 day bonus is a little nice, plus the extra political power can be helpful, I think.
Alright so... 1. Put all forces in Kentucky and east in VA/DC/MD
2. Put all forces west of Kentucky in Texas to hold onto the oil
3. Let the AUS, CSA and PSA duke it out
4. Use my navy to block the other countries' trade
Nota Jan 6, 2019 @ 2:21pm 
If you stay democratic and don't choose macarthur you don't lose california in succession is the big one.

Build factories in virginia and washington area. Set up a defensive line along the mountains and rivers around washington, if you have room to expand once you've stalled any attacks into you expand to new england area as it's the easiest to cutoff with large factory payback. I've played an entire civil war game like this on stream but the vod is too old. Eventually you'll win out if you have enough experience in the game. You can try to maintain the west by defensive line setting up just west of texas with all the militia divisions that pop, you'll get CSA insurgents in washington state though so allocate a small force there quickly to put them down. I was able to keep the east and west which effectively contained the fighting between the CSA and the Minutemen.

War was over by 40'
This was the only surviving clip from it https://www.twitch.tv/ranger_savage/clip/CreativeCharmingWheelBigBrother

The most important bit is air force FYI, when rebels pop they have nearly nothing so take advantage of that in your defenses.

I see people saying you should abandon washington, this is where a lot of different opinions will spring up but in my case losing the east is a way bigger hit than the west, with the east you are in proximity to a lot of industry to capture over the course of the war and your surrender threshold is much better. Do what your gut tells you and don't stick to a rigid strat, if you feel like you want to try holding texas over holding california and the rest of the west for the oil instead of the manpower and factory potential do that for example.
Last edited by Nota; Jan 6, 2019 @ 2:25pm
George W. Bush Jan 6, 2019 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Ranger_Savage:
If you stay democratic and don't choose macarthur you don't lose california in succession is the big one.

Build factories in virginia and washington area. Set up a defensive line along the mountains and rivers around washington, if you have room to expand once you've stalled any attacks into you expand to new england area as it's the easiest to cutoff with large factory payback. I've played an entire civil war game like this on stream but the vod is too old. Eventually you'll win out if you have enough experience in the game. You can try to maintain the west by defensive line setting up just west of texas with all the militia divisions that pop, you'll get CSA insurgents in washington state though so allocate a small force there quickly to put them down. I was able to keep the east and west which effectively contained the fighting between the CSA and the Minutemen.

War was over by 40'
This was the only surviving clip from it https://www.twitch.tv/ranger_savage/clip/CreativeCharmingWheelBigBrother

The most important bit is air force FYI, when rebels pop they have nearly nothing so take advantage of that in your defenses.

I see people saying you should abandon washington, this is where a lot of different opinions will spring up but in my case losing the east is a way bigger hit than the west, with the east you are in proximity to a lot of industry to capture over the course of the war and your surrender threshold is much better. Do what your gut tells you and don't stick to a rigid strat, if you feel like you want to try holding texas over holding california and the rest of the west for the oil instead of the manpower and factory potential do that for example.
I elected Huey Long as president. Do i need to choose someone else that isn't long or reed? I want to keep macarthur in power
Last edited by George W. Bush; Jan 6, 2019 @ 3:25pm
Nota Jan 6, 2019 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by AAAAAAAAA:
Originally posted by Ranger_Savage:
If you stay democratic and don't choose macarthur you don't lose california in succession is the big one.

Build factories in virginia and washington area. Set up a defensive line along the mountains and rivers around washington, if you have room to expand once you've stalled any attacks into you expand to new england area as it's the easiest to cutoff with large factory payback. I've played an entire civil war game like this on stream but the vod is too old. Eventually you'll win out if you have enough experience in the game. You can try to maintain the west by defensive line setting up just west of texas with all the militia divisions that pop, you'll get CSA insurgents in washington state though so allocate a small force there quickly to put them down. I was able to keep the east and west which effectively contained the fighting between the CSA and the Minutemen.

War was over by 40'
This was the only surviving clip from it https://www.twitch.tv/ranger_savage/clip/CreativeCharmingWheelBigBrother

The most important bit is air force FYI, when rebels pop they have nearly nothing so take advantage of that in your defenses.

I see people saying you should abandon washington, this is where a lot of different opinions will spring up but in my case losing the east is a way bigger hit than the west, with the east you are in proximity to a lot of industry to capture over the course of the war and your surrender threshold is much better. Do what your gut tells you and don't stick to a rigid strat, if you feel like you want to try holding texas over holding california and the rest of the west for the oil instead of the manpower and factory potential do that for example.
I elected Huey Long as president. Do i need to choose someone else that isn't long or reed?

If you go coalition Olson, if not whoever that other noname democracy guy is. The reason to do this is literally just so that the pacific states don't split off, they always split if you do anything anti-demo
George W. Bush Jan 7, 2019 @ 1:28pm 
My current progress has gone extremely well. I'm this close to taking Chicago and im pushing south. I've been able to secure all of Texas's oil and I'm making bank off of it. Thank you all for your advice.
drewbstar Jan 7, 2019 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by AAAAAAAAA:
My current progress has gone extremely well. I'm this close to taking Chicago and im pushing south. I've been able to secure all of Texas's oil and I'm making bank off of it. Thank you all for your advice.
Well done. Remember, you can encircle the capital city, cutting off supplies to the rest of the army. Beats having to push through the rest of the Midwest/West/South, depending on who pushed where.
George W. Bush Jan 7, 2019 @ 1:59pm 
Just took New Orleans and Chicago
George W. Bush Jan 7, 2019 @ 2:22pm 
Also i won
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