Hearts of Iron IV

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How do you guys balance civilian factories vs military factories?
i just bought this game and while im slowly learning i dont understand what you should be doing early game is it better to make as many civ fac as possible or is it better to do 50/50 also should room be left for other buildings (if there are any still not sure late game)(is there a reason not to build factories this game doesnt seem to have an economy system?)

if your wondering who i plan to play is a few games as Italy then try places like the US and Germany
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hengepupper Nov 23, 2018 @ 1:12pm 
i like to have around 80-90 civs so i can have a proper economy and then focusing on mils
Alexalmighty502 Nov 23, 2018 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by america:
i like to have around 80-90 civs so i can have a proper economy and then focusing on mils
so its better to focus on civ early then change them to mil later in the game?
KriegerKR Nov 23, 2018 @ 1:21pm 
I build civs till 1938 as a major, maybe later as a minor (1939 max). By then you need to focus on war and military factories.
GenericArchangel Nov 23, 2018 @ 1:25pm 
I've been told you should have 45 Civs working on projects by the time the war starts, and then build no more than a further 15 during the war. In practice, that works for any major country- smaller ones can stick with 30- and you do need the slots for military factories. Obviously, this doesn't apply to the US (200 Civs FTW).
Alexalmighty502 Nov 23, 2018 @ 1:43pm 
so for italy seeing how they start in a easy war how should i focus factory wise

also does it matter where theyre located and should i max out the places or should i save spots
flyboymb Nov 23, 2018 @ 6:21pm 
There might be a few considerations. Building on coasts takes up slots that could be used for naval factories. Focusing on regions that have heavy AA and fighter cover could disrupt enemy bombers, but putting all your eggs in one basket can seriously hamstring you if the enemy launches a naval invasion or a nuke there.

I usually max out most regions with civilian at the start of the game. By the time those are built, you have likely teched up your industry enough that more slots have opened and you can now place all the military factories that you need before the start of the war.

You can try to play safe and place say, 3 civilian factories followed by 3 military ones, but this actually slows down your rate of construction. Your civilian goods factories (the toaster %) cover a certain percentage of ALL your factories, but only affect your civilian ones. So if you have 100 civilian factories, and a 30% goods value, you'll have 70 factories to build stuff with. If you have 50 military and 50 civilian factories, that same percentage will only give you 20 factories to build with.

I've actually taken over nations that had a large number of military factories and wound up having 0 working civilian factories because the percentage of goods factories outnumbered my working civilian factories. Only being able to take out 1 factory/province every month made it a painstaking chore to weed out the excess.

Truth be told, if you have a humming economy, you'll never be limited by the number of military factories that you have. Instead, you'll be limited by resources such as Chromium or oil.
ALL HAIL SADDAM Nov 26, 2018 @ 3:16pm 
usallly i spam civilian factorys first so i can build tons of military factorys later
Fanstar1 Nov 26, 2018 @ 4:04pm 
depends on the country, as soivets i shoot for 120 civs then start militaries. USA depending on what happens either 200 or 250.
Kabm1 Nov 26, 2018 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by Alexalmighty502 #KRCs:
Originally posted by america:
i like to have around 80-90 civs so i can have a proper economy and then focusing on mils
so its better to focus on civ early then change them to mil later in the game?

No, never convert unless on desperation.
US, France probably need to build Mil factory none stop.
Others can build a few Civ factory if you need, try to build military stuff without import first. If you still need Civ for import then build it.
FDX Nov 27, 2018 @ 4:03am 
If you just bought the game, only play Germany until you somewhat have a hold of the mechanics.
Soviets 200 civs, germany until mid 38. Civs are almost in all cases more important than mils. People who are telling you that 90 civs is enough are either memeing or complete garbage at the game. I strongly recommend playing MP as soon as you're comfortable with it; circa 300 hours.
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Date Posted: Nov 23, 2018 @ 12:44pm
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