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Lochlan Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:17pm
Whats the best way to defeat japan?
I need to know the best way to defeat japan so i can finish WW2.

This is all of japans territory as of now.



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Monki Aug 31, 2018 @ 12:03am 
Clearly your both fighting to the death of Siberia so keep pushing
Monki Aug 31, 2018 @ 12:03am 
But really just nuke them so they're stability drops and they may have a chance of surrendering
Monki Aug 31, 2018 @ 12:03am 
also taking Korea usually gives japan the option to surrender
Mack Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:19am 
Don't push intp Siberia, you units would be getting destroyed by attrition. Just hold the line, increase your supply/infrastructure and build some forts. Your goal would be just tie up their units up north.

Take out the Germans & Afghanistan and then Iran if you feel like it. Clean up Italy & Spain as well, they need to be capitualted and Africa secured.

After that, I'd go two ways. Island hopping in the Pacific, and I'd also improve the supply infrastructure in Burma and try push through China perhaps.

You might need to build up your navy to sink the Japanese navy.

Since you're in 1941 I'd start working on strat bombers, heavy fighters & nuclear tech, marines & naval invasion tech. Grab islands in the pacific and improve their Radar & Airbases and start pounding Japan aerially.

That you still have the phillipines suggest you should have a pretty easy time taking Taiwan then Okinawa to prepare a push onto the southern islands of Japan itself.
Last edited by Mack; Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:20am
Inardesco Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:34am 
I invaded Japan using a naval invasion with 5 armies. Hit them in several locations on their main island and just watched them fall.

Not the loss of 1million men that's commonly used by people justifying the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (since little known fact, Japan was ready to surrender before the Germans but the US said no)
Monki Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:36am 
Oof
Noob2Pro Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
I invaded Japan using a naval invasion with 5 armies. Hit them in several locations on their main island and just watched them fall.

Not the loss of 1million men that's commonly used by people justifying the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (since little known fact, Japan was ready to surrender before the Germans but the US said no)

I didn't know that but isn't the reason why they bombed them with atomic bombs because it will take long and heavy casualties plus the soviets were now invading manchuria. It will take heavy casualties in real life because Japan is an island, they were preparing for it, and the citizens will also fight against japan.

In my startegy if China is an ally. Push the Japanese until northeastern siberian region. This will trap every Japanese forces fighting in siberia. China is easy to attack and defend which can help you fight Japan. The ♥♥♥♥ have limited manpower and resources looking at you screenshot. You control vital resources. This will allow you to end the war in a 1 year if you use the potential of blitzkrieg or more than that if you focus more on infantry
Inardesco Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by NOOB2PRO:
I didn't know that but isn't the reason why they bombed them with atomic bombs because it will take long and heavy casualties plus the soviets were now invading manchuria. It will take heavy casualties in real life because Japan is an island, they were preparing for it, and the citizens will also fight against japan.

The concensus by most military leaders of the time was this; Japan was already defeated; Japan already wanted to sign peace as early as February '45 and Japan would've been brought to it's knees through naval blockade.

The atomic bombs had no military purpose. The only purpose the atomic bombs had was posturing towards the Russians.
Noob2Pro Aug 31, 2018 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
Originally posted by NOOB2PRO:
I didn't know that but isn't the reason why they bombed them with atomic bombs because it will take long and heavy casualties plus the soviets were now invading manchuria. It will take heavy casualties in real life because Japan is an island, they were preparing for it, and the citizens will also fight against japan.

The concensus by most military leaders of the time was this; Japan was already defeated; Japan already wanted to sign peace as early as February '45 and Japan would've been brought to it's knees through naval blockade.

The atomic bombs had no military purpose. The only purpose the atomic bombs had was posturing towards the Russians.

Are you the Inardesco that I see in M2TW discussion?
drewbstar Aug 31, 2018 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
Originally posted by NOOB2PRO:
I didn't know that but isn't the reason why they bombed them with atomic bombs because it will take long and heavy casualties plus the soviets were now invading manchuria. It will take heavy casualties in real life because Japan is an island, they were preparing for it, and the citizens will also fight against japan.

The concensus by most military leaders of the time was this; Japan was already defeated; Japan already wanted to sign peace as early as February '45 and Japan would've been brought to it's knees through naval blockade.

The atomic bombs had no military purpose. The only purpose the atomic bombs had was posturing towards the Russians.
IIRC, the offical plans if a mainland invasion were to occur was to simply execute all Allied (American?) POWs.
Other things to consider: had a mainland invasion occured, the naval blockade would have continued for much longer, leading to more civilian starvation.

And, after all, the Kyūjo incident, where there was an attempted coup to continue fighting ever after both bombs were dropped.
andersrlarsen Aug 31, 2018 @ 8:13am 
ignore northern front. just hold the line.
naval invade taiwan and/or iwo jima, then use naval bombers to take out their fleet. then naval invade their homeland.
keeping their divisions busy in the north will mean that they will have less divisions in japan, and make them much easier to conquer than defeating them in the rest of asia.
if china is their puppet (and also other countries that are puppets of japan), then make sure you battle divisions from each of them. that will result in the option to annex them as well when japan surrender. if you dont fight their divisions, they will surrender but wont give up (they will be at peace with you, and get a non-attack with you)
Noob2Pro Aug 31, 2018 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by andersrlarsen:
ignore northern front. just hold the line.
naval invade taiwan and/or iwo jima, then use naval bombers to take out their fleet. then naval invade their homeland.
keeping their divisions busy in the north will mean that they will have less divisions in japan, and make them much easier to conquer than defeating them in the rest of asia.
if china is their puppet (and also other countries that are puppets of japan), then make sure you battle divisions from each of them. that will result in the option to annex them as well when japan surrender. if you dont fight their divisions, they will surrender but wont give up (they will be at peace with you, and get a non-attack with you)

They don't look like as if china is a puppet. Correct me if I am worong but I know that if you puppet a country. The ideology changes as well to the ideology of the country that puppted that certain country.

If China is at peace. Declare war at them thus giving you a new front to fight. A front that is easier to invade
Lochlan Aug 31, 2018 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by NOOB2PRO:
Originally posted by andersrlarsen:
ignore northern front. just hold the line.
naval invade taiwan and/or iwo jima, then use naval bombers to take out their fleet. then naval invade their homeland.
keeping their divisions busy in the north will mean that they will have less divisions in japan, and make them much easier to conquer than defeating them in the rest of asia.
if china is their puppet (and also other countries that are puppets of japan), then make sure you battle divisions from each of them. that will result in the option to annex them as well when japan surrender. if you dont fight their divisions, they will surrender but wont give up (they will be at peace with you, and get a non-attack with you)

They don't look like as if china is a puppet. Correct me if I am worong but I know that if you puppet a country. The ideology changes as well to the ideology of the country that puppted that certain country.

If China is at peace. Declare war at them thus giving you a new front to fight. A front that is easier to invade
There are two chinas actually puppet china and independant china.
Noob2Pro Aug 31, 2018 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by Lochlan:
Originally posted by NOOB2PRO:

They don't look like as if china is a puppet. Correct me if I am worong but I know that if you puppet a country. The ideology changes as well to the ideology of the country that puppted that certain country.

If China is at peace. Declare war at them thus giving you a new front to fight. A front that is easier to invade
There are two chinas actually puppet china and independant china.

Militarize your puppets. Germans are defeated already right? Use all your factories to build military factories and citizen factories to build the german war economy so u can use the full potential. You could also do it also in other countries like soviet union. Then give them independence.
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Date Posted: Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:17pm
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