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mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 2:55pm

Tripartite Pact

If soviets declare war on germany, wil japan auto join war against soviets?

Playing as germany. At war with only allies, year 1940 and suddenly japan, that is not in axis but has its own asian prosperity faction, offers me to join tripartite pact. Should i accept or not? What are difference? Must be different consequenses for accepting tripartite pact or refusing?

Last edited by mnashtyrma; Jul 10, 2018 @ 4:02pm

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Originally posted by Viverax:

Its impossible to invite Japan to the axis cause they will make their own faction in 1937/1938.
But you can make Japan help you with the soviets. The tripartite pact will FORCE Japan to declere war on the soviets only if soviets declered war on you.

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sovy99 Fabio has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:01pm

If you refuse japan will not likely join the axis and sometimes does its own faction. No real penalties should be involved.
On the other hand letting them join you could bring you at war with US earlier than expected (the US is still probably going to attack you later in the game)

mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:05pm

Originally posted by sovy99 (Fabio):
If you refuse japan will not likely join the axis and sometimes does its own faction. No real penalties should be involved.
On the other hand letting them join you could bring you at war with US earlier than expected (the US is still probably going to attack you later in the game)

But what if i join tripartite pact and later soviets attacks me? wil then japan join war against soviets?

sovy99 Fabio has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:06pm

well historically they usually don't

The Spanish Inquisition has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:06pm

Japan isn't going to join axis either way since they usually already made their own faction before the tripartite pact.

mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:06pm

Originally posted by sovy99 (Fabio):
well historically they usually don't

what do mean? you mean in real life? I mean in the game what wil happen?

sovy99 Fabio has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:08pm

they never joined me :D
also as The Spanish Inquisition says you wouldn't have direct ally so...

mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:08pm

Originally posted by The Spanish Inquisition:
Japan isn't going to join axis either way since they usually already made their own faction before the tripartite pact.

Yes, it's year 1940 and japan has its own asia prosperity faction. I am most concerned wheather japan wil auto join defensive war against soviets, when soviets attack me (germany)? I kind of don't want them to join war vs soviets since they wil be crushed by them too fast.

sovy99 Fabio has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:09pm

in every game I did I never saw japan attack the soviets (well maybe once)

mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:09pm

Originally posted by sovy99 (Fabio):
they never joined me :D
also as The Spanish Inquisition says you wouldn't have direct ally so...

pripartite pact works only if it's defencive war? was you attacked or you declared war?

mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:11pm

Originally posted by sovy99 (Fabio):
in every game I did I never saw japan attack the soviets (well maybe once)

If i understand tripartite pact, it's only about defensive war? If any of germany, italy or japan attacked by another country, the other 2 countries auto join defencive war? In such case if germany declares war vs soviets, japan won't join war, but if soviets declares war on germany, such in my case, japan has to join defensive war to defend germany against soviets?

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Lil Jeremy has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:13pm

Originally posted by sovy99 (Fabio):
in every game I did I never saw japan attack the soviets (well maybe once)

It happens alot make sure you dont have historical focuses on if you want it to happen

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sovy99 Fabio has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:14pm

I believe that since they did that update with "asia prosperity faction" the event of tripartite pact has lost value (also japan has an AI modifier called warrior's code or something that makes more difficult to call or join an ally in war (you can see this before starting the game), but if you want to be more sure of japan not attacking you can refuse and maybe it helps

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mnashtyrma has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:19pm

Anyone else knows? So as sovy99 said there are no difference/no consequences either you as germany join tripartite pact or refuse? What's the point of that event putting in the game in such case?

Last edited by mnashtyrma; Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:20pm

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Lil Jeremy has Hearts of Iron IV

Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:29pm

Originally posted by Espek:
Anyone else knows? So as sovy99 said there are no difference/no consequences either you as germany join tripartite pact or refuse? What's the point of that event putting in the game in such case?

I think it might make japan like -10 relations you, not sure but its definatly nothing very bad. The point of it is to try and push Japan to join you for their navy.

Last edited by Lil Jeremy; Jul 10, 2018 @ 3:30pm

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