Why is China not considered a major country?

[odds]

why?

[Tomatemon]

You Know Soviet Union Or Russia Isnt A Major Country Before Ww2

[Warlordnipple]

It depends on how strong you get. Game start they are not, but I usually get GP status at some point during war

[The Spanish Inquisition]

Because China is pretty weak at the beginning of the game and isn't known for becoming a major power until the cold war period.

[4 in 1 petrol lawnmower]

Prob because china in the pre war period was divided and had a weak military.

[odds]

But when starting a new game, you can chose to buff the major contries, but for some reason, you can also buff China, but no other minor country :/

[KriegerKR]

china had a big role in ww2 in holding off the japanese, so that's probably why you can buff them

[odds]

Poland had a big role in ww2 as well, but you can't buff them. I'm very triggerd my the non-consistency.

[KriegerKR]

Originally posted by odds:

Poland had a big role in ww2 as well, but you can't buff them. I'm very triggerd my the non-consistency.

if you want to buff them all there's probably a mod. i know road to 56 lets you buff all countries.

[odds]

Originally posted by Bhard:

Originally posted by odds:

Poland had a big role in ww2 as well, but you can't buff them. I'm very triggerd my the non-consistency.

if you want to buff them all there's probably a mod. i know road to 56 lets you buff all countries.

I don't want to buff Poland. I want China to be acknowledged as a major country in this game or die trying!

[KriegerKR]

Originally posted by odds:

Originally posted by Bhard:

if you want to buff them all there's probably a mod. i know road to 56 lets you buff all countries.

I don't want to buff Poland. I want China to be acknowledged as a major country in this game or die trying! :fuuu:

just kill all of the warlords and communist china before the war with japan, then you will be considered a major. a divided china can never truly be major

[Not online!!!]

Originally posted by odds:

Originally posted by Bhard:

if you want to buff them all there's probably a mod. i know road to 56 lets you buff all countries.

I don't want to buff Poland. I want China to be acknowledged as a major country in this game or die trying! :fuuu:

China at the 1936 start is literally a fith grade power.
Ressources go out, inflation, Manpower problems aka draft dodging, an semi ongoing chinese civil war, warlords like chiang, sheng shicai, etc. army commanders have more power then the central government, no industrial capacity whatsoever, obsolete military in most cases, an republic system that got taken out of the picture and that upset ofcourse the democratic faction within the central chinese government, support for communists within the central government, support for Pu Yi aka manchukuo emperor, lackluster support of Chiang.
No China is worse off then some south american countries at that time so it should not at any cicumstance be considered a major power. Only after a vicotry against the japanese and a victory in a chinese civil war it should get the Major status.

[Ms Mercy Main]

As it is considering Italy a major power is stretching it, and you want a country that was actively in a civil war to be considered a major? Also, Spain had a major impact on WWII, and it's not considered a Major. Same for Romania, Hungary, and several other nations. As for why it has a buff option, it's because the Chinese AI constantly losses the war with Japan HARD, but when it got buffed out the rear it always won, and in both cases players complained. The whole reason the buff option exists is for China, so players can decide how strong they feel it should be.

[BrigadierBill]

China, more than any other country in the game, has the potential to become a major power by the game's end (and realistically was not long after the game ended, though not competitive with the USA or USSR yet).

Major power status requires a mixture of technology, industry, and manpower, and although China had manpower in 1936, it most certainly did not have tech or industry yet. Even Italy outnumbered most of the other potential great powers in the world in terms of manpower and industry, far outstripping the other major industrial minors of Europe such as Poland, Spain, Sweden, or Czechoslovakia. Beyond that, only the Chinese, Indians, and Indonesians had more power than the 7 majors; Brazil is the only other nation even competing in terms of manpower, but itself is vastly below in industry (just as Indonesia and India are, besides being colonial subjects).

[jackhickman999]

In terms of the game:
China is split up a the start and it was a very rural place with not a lot of resources?
The main reason that China is powerful in this game is because of the manpower which is only because of how hard it is to get in this game.

If you could get more non core manpower as other nations or if you could core some reasonable places then China wouldn't matter so much.

[jackhickman999]

China had been beaten a lot by Europeans powers recently as well.
It was not a major power until after good many years after the commies took control after the war.

Not exactly a major power.
If you get beat by a few brits.