How to get japan to join the axis as germany?

[chark]

It's march 28th 1940 and i have full control of france and benelux countries. Japan is apart of its "Greater East-Asian Co-Prospetiy sphere and thus i can't invite him to the axis. i have the "befriend japan" nf

[Lysenko]

I think formally keeping Japan out of the axis was intentional, so you dont have to capitulate Japan to end the war. They're unofficially an axis member though, they'll also end up fighting the allies, and maybe soviets if you're lucky

[Ole_Salvesen]

Yea, it sucks. It really do. Thought the game was "war simulator", but now they are moving away it seems like. I liked how it was before. Hope it change back.

[Lo Burattino]

japan out of axis is so annoying, he and his allies wont allow me to use their airports to gain air superiority in sea and ground so I cant do ♥♥♥♥

[GoldenTalon]

This is another of those great changes Danny made in WtT. No one asked for this and there's no option to disabe it. Oly suggestion now is to tag switch to Japan and have them disolve the GEACPS.

[andersrlarsen]

thats actually historical correct!

people missunderstand what kind of treaties japan had with the axis, and therefore belive japan was an axis member. but japan never really was a member of the axis in ww2, an therefore shouldt be a part of axis in the game either.

there are 5 important pacts that was made during 30s and 40s that is worth mentioning;
1 - The Anti-Comintern Pact was an anti-Communist pact concluded between Germany and Japan (later to be joined by other, mainly fascist, governments) on November 25, 1936.
2 - Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was signed between the Soviet Union and Germany, in August 1939. With this pact, Germany broke the terms of the Anti-Comintern Pact.
3 - The Tripartite Pact, also known as the Berlin Pact, was an agreement between Germany, Italy and Japan signed in Berlin on 27 September 1940. this pact was directed towards usa, and was an attemt to scare usa from entering the war on the allies side.
4 - The Pact of Steel, was a military and political alliance between the Kingdom of Italy and Nazi Germany. The pact was initially drafted as a tripartite military alliance between Japan, Italy and Germany. While Japan wanted the focus of the pact to be aimed at the Soviet Union, Italy and Germany wanted it aimed at the British Empire and France. Due to this disagreement, the pact was signed without Japan and became an agreement between Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, signed on 22 May 1939.
this disagreement also meant that japan didnt join the axis, since they didnt share the same enemies.
5 - The Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact, also known as the Japanese–Soviet Non-aggression Pact, was a pact between the Soviet Union and Japan signed on April 13, 1941. The pact was signed to ensure the neutrality between the Soviet Union and Japan during World War II, in which both countries participated.

with the tripartite pact, germany and italy had promised they would declare war on usa, when japan did. at the same time, japan then declared war on uk and the other allies. up to this point, japan and germany/italy didnt have any cooperation between each other. in fact, germany had advisors and military equipment sent to china to help china in the war AGAINST japan.

Note;
Historically, Japan did create greater east asian co-prosperity sphere. Its intention was to create a self-sufficient bloc of asian nations led by the japanese, that was free of western powers.

[WhaleDeFender]

ikr

[Dizzydeath1337]

Originally posted by GoldenTalon:

This is another of those great changes Danny made in WtT. No one asked for this and there's no option to disabe it. Oly suggestion now is to tag switch to Japan and have them disolve the GEACPS.

You complain when there's something ahistorical and you complain when there's something historical, You just like to complain don't you?

[Kawaii Sturmtruppen]

tagging in as japan it is.

[「SHAORUNE」]

Originally posted by GoldenTalon:

This is another of those great changes Danny made in WtT. No one asked for this and there's no option to disabe it. Oly suggestion now is to tag switch to Japan and have them disolve the GEACPS.

Ah yes, back then when everyone complain about having to invade Japan to get a peace deal for Germany. Now somebody complain for not having Japan in the axis. You just want to complain huh?

[「SHAORUNE」]

Originally posted by 76561198135245412:

japan out of axis is so annoying, he and his allies wont allow me to use their airports to gain air superiority in sea and ground so I cant do ♥♥♥♥

Ask for millitary acess, that will give you the right to use their airbase

[HotShot]

They can send you a decision to join the "tripartie pact" (not sure of the spelling) which gives garuntees on the major historical axis powers. However, the only real way for them to be apart of the Axis proper in game would be for you to either invite them early on and they accept if they dont start off in a faction like Germany does, or to disband the Axis facton and join them, only to take it over, and sort of use that or kick everyone out and remake the Axis again. However that last bit might be tricky if people dont feel like they should join your faction.

Furthermore, they can still be apart of the Axis IF they go another route, like a democratic civil war and you garuntee the Facists.