Can someone explain MUTINIES ?

[Tiber Septim]

I can't find clear info about this event, i've read somethings says it's about stability-warsuport-manpower ratio.

If conscription value's higher than war support some guys start yelling in army. that's it what i know.

I'm asking help cause i can't get rid of munity penalty as Canada. I spent some much PP, tried %80 and 40 rid of chances but this event keeps come everytime, getting worse than ever and now my stability is %14, war support %13 etc.

This ruined my ironman game.

Is this normal or a kind of bug ?

Please help, thank you.

[DeepDorkFantasy]

AFAIK, mutinies is a resolt of War Support below 50% treshhold, just like a Strikes for Stability.

[Tiber Septim]

Originally posted by BloodWalrus:

AFAIK, mutinies is a resolt of War Support below 50% treshhold, just like a Strikes for Stability.

Ok, if that happnes mutinies event pop up and we can try supress with PP, right ?

Guys in my army're very serious. I tried few times to appease them down with PP but nothing worked, i fought with an civil war even. My stability and war support ruined.

And after civil war... i got a munities event again.

[Tiber Septim]

Another poor souls like me http://steamcommunity.com/app/394360/discussions/0/1698293255127368679/

Where we're wrong ? It seems this'll remain an annoying msytery for a while.

[Atlas is]

Pretty sure I had munitinies yesterday with more than 50% war support

[Tiber Septim]

Originally posted by Zeva Atlas having a good time.:

Pretty sure I had munitinies yesterday with more than 50% war support

Right, mine was above too, also i had %83 stability.

Canada's manpower is too low so i tried focus on this, picked zombies etc. After 5 years i could manage some things about MP at last. What if this munitinies're about relation between conscription and war support ?

Don2t know this related to issue but seemed most reasonable thing to me.

Anyway, i'm curious about "how" bc i can't get rid of munitinies event. Event's automatic solutions didn't work for me, i spent 300+PP and no success. They keeped babling even to civil war and go on. If we can understand mechanic maybe there's something to prevent this.

Or.. this's a terrible bug, dunno.

[Tiber Septim]

Check that answer https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/832qdj/widespread_mutinies_in_the_soviet_union/

[Tiber Septim]

Damn, my 3rd attempt to mutinies crisis's fail again...

1) crisis poped up
2) choosed a reaction with 145 PP with %80 success chance
3) fail, - %10 stability, huge mutinies effect on divisions, started "restore order in military" event with about 80 days (every 80 days communist party gain %10 popularity)
4) waited for gain PP
5) spent 5 PP to react crisis so event poped up again.
6) choosed a reaction with 85 PP with %40 success chance
7) fail, -%10 stability, mutinies effect growed, restore order in military event go on
8) i can't remeber this, maybe try and figure out wtf, spent some PP on somethings etc and a crisis event poped up, failed again cause i haven't PP
9) CIVIL WAR - communist took some territory and blowed up a couple destroyers.
10) won civil war but there's still mutinies effect (last part and dangerous version "widespread") and restore order effect.
11) spent 5 PP to react crisis so event poped up again.
12) choosed a reaction with 145 PP with %80 success chance
13) fail, - %10 stability, restore order event goes on...

And when this was happening a country attacked another which under my guarentee. I couldn't help cause my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ soldiers ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up everything,
-%50 div. recovery rate,
+%50 training time,
-%75 div. attack,
-0.30 army exp gain daily,
-%50 div. org.

AND like a powerless, liar, loser country (bc i didn't keep my protection promise), i received a HUGE stability penalty plus all of that crisis events.

Now my stability %3 and communist party keep gain %10 pop at every 80 days.

WTF about this MUTINY CRISIS ? Why i can't success after spent + 400 PP...

(By the way, i've %40 war supoort still. 11M core population, %3.30 consription law, 380K MP, 150K unused MP)

[tiferet]

It seems no matter what I do, and I always go for most expensive solution, - mutinies just become worse and worse. Is there a bug?

[Lil Jeremy]

mutinies seem fine for me, what ive noticed is that it feels like to me that its luck of the draw wether or not it becomes a serious issue, althouogh even after failing 2 mutinies i was able to recover everything so i dont find this much of an issue

[seashell]

spam air force
every time you get an ace you get +2% war support

Originally posted by tiferet:

It seems no matter what I do, and I always go for most expensive solution, - mutinies just become worse and worse. Is there a bug?

you are just unlucky

on the bright side if you get it fixed you get +5% stability i think

[Admod, the Equivocal]

Mutinies are fine for me too. I've started to use the improve workers condition and the propaganda against countries more often now too.

The only real problem I find is there is no advisors to increase stability or war support for some countries. If you're facist you might as well get access to war support. If you're democracy you should get access to stabilit. Something like that.

[TheBoxWizard]

just had the event pop up for the first time with 100% war support, 45 stability and im facist. dont know what it could be.

[TheBoxWizard]

chose the middle option (surround them with officals and talk it out, basicly) and it said mutiny cushed so idk. im thinking its a stability issue.

Edit: also did some propaganda if that changes stuff