How to defeat Japan as ussr?

[Papa]

I know this is pretty long, but please if you know how or have defeat japan as ussr help me. I am now on my 6th ussr campaign, the other 5 have all failed because of japan. When germany attacked me, i was able to defend against them well, but then japan got called in (historical focuses turned on btw) defeated sinkiang and mongolia very quickly and then started pushing into me on the largest front i ever saw. So, i had an idea to defeat japan at the start of the campaign so i do not have to worry about them when germany attacks me. It was difficult, but i managed to conquer all of manchuria and menguko and so japan was only able to navaly invade me. But then, the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ update kicked in and china did a very historical thing where they joined japan's faction. Germany also attacked me and i could not hold both of them off. So, i had an idea to defeat japan and boost communist party popularity in china at the start of the campaign, the popularity boost went well but defeating japan suddenly got impossible. i had a 100 divisions on the manchurian border with the order to attack, i declared war on japan and at the start the attack went decent, but then my supply of infantry equipment quickly went down due to the ussr being♥♥♥♥♥♥early game, and then it turned into a stale mate and then japan had the upper hand. I had 10 divisions in one province, 6 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 motorized and one horse division, they were all 20 combat width except the horse, but then one japaneese boi attacked my 10 divisions, quickly defeating them and i also had air superiority and support. Not only that, but japan managed to defeat china even though i went to war with them at pretty much the same time they went to war with china. My point is that ussr is impossible to play now, germany will attack then japan will join the war and then china for some ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason and it doesn't help that ussr is very bad early game plus the purge plus them only having 3 research slots while the other major countries have 4. I would be very thankful if anyone can help me.

[chaosguy]

Are you asking how to salavge your current situation? Because it sounds like youre just borked. (China adding their manpower to Japan sounds like a tough one). Are you asking how to start over? Because its sounds like you were doing okay if you knocked Japan all the way back to their home islands. China joining them has got to be a very low RNG, so I wouldn't sweat that too much (I think- who knows since the patch).

One thing I've noticed is that in non-historical Japan picks the 'attack USSR' tree much more often now. Again could be RNG, but thats been my experience. So, be ready for it. And yes, you should be trying to improve realtions and/or influence both Mao and Chiang, just to be safe. That's gonna sap a lot of political power though, so make sure you got your western front where it needs to be.

More practically, for your eastern front divisions over 20 width are a bad idea, because as you noticed the supply situation in that part of the world simply can't handle it, so adapt if you have to. In that same vein, research logistics companies & using them is a must. If you do nothing else, do that and you'll see an improvement.

edit: spelling

[Papa]

well, thanks for your answer and i think i am going to start a new campaign and implement some of the things you and others have said and the supplies there are really bad so i am going to need to change some things and yeah, thanks again

[Mikey]

how to defeat japan? Get nukes, get tons of fighters, get one of the islands near Honshu and drop 2 nukes on Japan... They will surrender then

[dasaard200]

1] DO NOT LOSE VLADIVOSTOK !! L10 forts in and around Vladivistok will help, having an INF training center with a General nearby will feed you troops to man those L10 forts, cannot hurt .

2] You have 2 Far Eastern ports, fortify them heavily !, and build ships there; as those Western fleets will be bottled up for quite some time .

3] Hold and take the rest of the island just east of the Russian coast; you have an airfield there, take the port from the ♥♥♥♥ .

4] Build up airpower for superiority in Far East .

5] When all is ready, "Hulk, SMASH !!"

[NordicWildheart]

Originally posted by Mikey:

how to defeat japan? Get nukes, get tons of fighters, get one of the islands near Honshu and drop 2 nukes on Japan... They will surrender then

Dropped a nuke on each of Japan's five biggest cities = No surrender, no hit on the surrenderbar in the war screen. :(

[NordicWildheart]

But to answer the question: Clear the Asian mainland, start strategic bombing of Japan, build a fleet to get sea superiority for a naval invasion.

[Papa]

Thanks for the replies everyone, but i do not see the point in making smaller divisions. If i make smaller divisions i will automaticaly make more divisions so yeah and in my last campaign i was able to defeat manchuko and menguko but in my current campaign i am not able to. I did everything the same, have a 100 divisions but the japeneese divisions are so much better. Like i said before one japaneese division managed to defeat 10 of my divisions - 6 infantry, 2 motorized 1 tank and 1 cavlary and all of them were 20 combat width, i had air superiority and support from tac bombers and i was up to date with technology and had decent enough commanders assigned to my armies. They are also pushing into china very quickly even though they are at war with me and china at the same time. I just don't understand how their divisions are so much better than mine and they are also suffering attrition because they have quite a lot of divisions but less than me and also there are some manchurian and italian divisions as well. So yeah, i did say a lot of these things before and other than that ussr is bad early game so i can't keep up with so many divisions they are often not full strength because they are missing some infantry equipment and tanks are always quite low on strength because i can't produce enough of everything at the same time and there are also other factors that make the ussr weak early game. So if anybody can give me some more tips based on this information i would be very thankful because i can't be bothered to start another campaign as the ussr and my current one is not looking so good because germany is gonna attack me as well and i don't think i can hold Germany and Japan off at the same time. So yeah, if anybody has any more suggestions for me i would greatly appreciate them. Thanks

[Sohei]

Siberia has terrible infrastructure to start with. If you didn't upgrade it then supply and movement of forces could be a problem. The low supply modifiers could explain some forces doing more poorly than expected.