National Focus Tips for China?

[PossibleTango]

Anyone have some tips on what nation focuses to go for China?

[Caserbob]

So I've figure some things out as Nationalist China. You have two main goals: Beat the Japanese on the mainland and unite China. The three weaknesses of China are: low production due to a lack of resources, weak military due to corruption, and limited research slots. So your focus choices should be towards rectifying these.

To rectify your lack of resources and further your goal of reuniting china you need to puppet/annex Guangi Clique before the Japanese invade. Go down the focus tree towards subjugate the warlords. You'll need to save your political points to integrate the Guangi Clique. If they don't accept Nationalist leadership you'll gain a casus belli against them. Declare war and try to win before the Japanese invade. You should have approximately 2 months.

The next thing to get a third research slot. Go down the economy tree to get the third slot. Once you gain it the Japanese should invade.

Next is to gain the Army Reform focus so you can start fixing your military. This should take 6 more months. Once you gain this hopefully you have enough military experience to start taking the decisions to fix your military.

[CptBritish]

Go early artillery. No its not a National Focus tip but early artillery as any Chinese Nation will help massively.

I've only toyed around with Nationalist China in waking the Tiger but going early into subjugate the warlords hopefully having one or more turn you down so you can build up some early army experience attacking them.

I'd go straight for Subjugate the Warlords then the army reform. Then start getting the stability and war support.

You want to get rid of the Army Corruption so you start off actually better than the Japanese (As they'll still have the -50% attack).

Your economy will be weaker for longer but you should have an easier time holding the Japanese off.

But seriously the best tip I could give is go early artillery and pray that you can take over the Guangxi Clique fast, their resources will be a massive difference to how fast you can expand.

[Torrens]

As Nationalist China you have 4 problems.

*Lack of resources
*Lack of research
*Inflation
*Army corrpution

These are the factors that either make you win or lose. There is no way to rush them with national focuses as they are all locked at somepoint by prequisites. You have to gradually grind them all away with focuses after many prequisites are completed and some of them might take years. Im not gonna give you the right order for focuses, there is no right answer. Inflation restricts your civilian factories by pumping the consumer good % upwards.

Side note:

If you seek help from UK and USA, you can get many off map military factories that you can't lose. They can also provide you free fighters if you are smart with the focuses. Up to 100 free fighters if you play your cards right. You will be suprised how effective interwar fighters can be when defending large airzones where Japan can't reach. It is a complicated tech tree. They also let you get rid of your resource problems so don't neglect the right side of the focus tree. Very important.

[Kitten Food]

Nationalist China is very easy with the current DLC. Very easy is an understatement TBH.

You literally only need to worry about defense and watch the Japanese melt their manpower away. First focuses that I do are internal strength to submit the warlords and remove communist china. These are very important. Hopefully a couple warlords do not submit because you can declare war on them and gain military experience for reforms. I do not annex their lands, you need them as puppets who you DO NOT call into war. Just ask for troops. The reason? If they are not in the war, Japan has less entry points to push through.

You can do all of that easily before Japan starts justifying.

Secondly, I let Japan have the Marco Polo event. The reason being is that it buys you almost another year to add entrenchment equipment and upgraded guns. You will have time to get your front lines secured and coast defended.

If you pick Madame Soong, you can also push through the American assistance focus, which lets you get nice bonuses later on.

After that, you want to go down focuses that give you bonuses versus the Japanese. With all those bonuses and choosing Marshalls/Generals/Advisors for defense, their troops will literally melt in every single push they make. You just need to sit on the front line gaining xp to reform your army. Once you reform, you can start pushing the offensive and easily defeat the Japanese making them sue for peace.

In my current campaign, Japan lost 2.5 million manpower versus me losing 25k. It was a humiliating joke and super easy to just build up my factories while they just bled their country dry.

[FUZZY]

idk, just do whatever you want and by early 1938 you should be able to eliminate most japanese army and stare at the remaining poor 50k japanese troops on their home island for 4 years. And after USA joins war, you should have naval superioty to kill the remaining 50k

[Wz]

lol good look with removing comm china from the fight. I literally had 50 units for a whole ingame year trying to take the capital from 8. Because... Realism right? Of course it bled over into the war with japan and GG. China is basically impossible with Historical accuracy unless RNG.

[Kitten Food]

Originally posted by Wz:

lol good look with removing comm china from the fight. I literally had 50 units for a whole ingame year trying to take the capital from 8. Because... Realism right? Of course it bled over into the war with japan and GG. China is basically impossible with Historical accuracy unless RNG.

entirely false.

[CptBritish]

Originally posted by Wz:

lol good look with removing comm china from the fight. I literally had 50 units for a whole ingame year trying to take the capital from 8. Because... Realism right? Of course it bled over into the war with japan and GG. China is basically impossible with Historical accuracy unless RNG.

I smashed both the Japanese invasion forces and the United Front as Qing China so you must have bad templates.

[The Prophet]

Originally posted by Caserbob:

So I've figure some things out as Nationalist China. You have two main goals: Beat the Japanese on the mainland and unite China. The three weaknesses of China are: low production due to a lack of resources, weak military due to corruption, and limited research slots. So your focus choices should be towards rectifying these.

To rectify your lack of resources and further your goal of reuniting china you need to puppet/annex Guangi Clique before the Japanese invade.

Is there a diplomatic annexation? Or can you only invade the chinese warlords?

[Caserbob]

Originally posted by The Prophet:

Is there a diplomatic annexation? Or can you only invade the chinese warlords?

Once you get the sujugate the warlords you get a couple of alerts wether each warlord has accepted your rule or not. If not you can declare war on them to puppet them. If they aceept for each warlord there is a series of decisions you spend political points on to puppet/integrate/then annex them peacefully.

[qwerty]

I haven't tried this myself, but collaborating with Japan and also subjugating warlords is probably the easiest way to go.

It is totally possible to hold off Japanese invasion if you do it well enough, but why do that when you can snowball faster by collaborating with Japan and taking out that one warlord who won't subjugate.

It is probably much easier than being extremely efficient with allocating armies.

[velvetcrabman]

https://www.youtube.com/@Bitt3rSteel

^^ This guy uses a very similar strategy to my own

[TasteDasRainbow]

Originally posted by qwerty:

I haven't tried this myself, but collaborating with Japan and also subjugating warlords is probably the easiest way to go.

It is totally possible to hold off Japanese invasion if you do it well enough, but why do that when you can snowball faster by collaborating with Japan and taking out that one warlord who won't subjugate.

It is probably much easier than being extremely efficient with allocating armies.

Please stop necro'ing years old threads repeatedly. If you wish to discuss a topic, start a new one. You are literally referring to content that did not exist at the time of this post.