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ped_lord Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:18pm
Special Forces
What do you guys think of the new system for them?

I don´t like it so much, now i can´t do a big invasion with a lot of parachute and marines, if i want i have to make their division with less battalions, parachutes was already dificult to invade and not being wiped out, I agree it should be a limit for the number of special forces in the field, but it should be one limit for each special forces not one for all of them together to make you choose between which one you will use
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VidyaGamez Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:25pm 
The old system was worse, you just had everyone replacing Infantry with marines. I like how it works now, but it needs to be tweaked.
ped_lord Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:26pm 
Originally posted by Magister Militum Castellanius:
i mean, the limit isn't small, just train more regular troops lol

not a good option if you have low manpower
VidyaGamez Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by ped_lord:
Originally posted by Magister Militum Castellanius:
i mean, the limit isn't small, just train more regular troops lol

not a good option if you have low manpower
I'm not in game right now, aren't there techs that boost that cap?
ped_lord Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by Zulgaines:
The old system was worse, you just had everyone replacing Infantry with marines. I like how it works now, but it needs to be tweaked.

agree, it should be a limit, but the limit that it has right now it´s not so good
ped_lord Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by Zulgaines:
Originally posted by ped_lord:

not a good option if you have low manpower
I'm not in game right now, aren't there techs that boost that cap?

yeah, it adds 5% in the limits calculation
Axor Mar 11, 2018 @ 12:44pm 
I hate to say this guys, but this is realistic and how it should be. All you have to do is look up how few Marine, Paratroop, and Ranger divisions existed in the US Army in WW2 or how many SAS and Paratroopers in the UK Army. The current numbers are realistic and make Special Forces what they are - SPECIAL!
Zorlond Mar 11, 2018 @ 12:58pm 
It was definitely kinda weird having -everybody- in my army being a Mountaineer or a Marine. This makes way more sense.
Viviana Mar 11, 2018 @ 2:18pm 
Special forces limit shows how incompitent paradox is at balancing stuff.
Kanjejou Jun 18, 2018 @ 7:45pm 
my only complain is that the upper tree doesnt being much to special force...

+5% defence is weak compared to +5% special force cap(which allow to put a few montainer and marine in every division...(fore the land bonuses/reduce maluses)
Tomsow(12) Jun 18, 2018 @ 11:13pm 
It was meant to prevent space Marines, however I don't think they should nerf all of special forces.
gimpy Jun 19, 2018 @ 12:12am 
i hate how the US is limited to how many Marines they can produce since the Marine Corp. has been our main fighting force since ww2.
wyattgilman Feb 5, 2023 @ 3:57pm 
There are literally only 4 Marine Divisions in active service, max six plus four smaller units at any one time.
Originally posted by gimpy:
i hate how the US is limited to how many Marines they can produce since the Marine Corp. has been our main fighting force since ww2.
Last edited by wyattgilman; Feb 5, 2023 @ 3:58pm
Tragopan Feb 5, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
I think it is silly, honestly. Special Forces shouldn't be determined by some arbitrary limit. If you want to design a military completely based around specializing in parachuting then you should be able to do so.

It would be balanced enough just requiring a lot more equipment and increased training time. This is how I balance it for myself when playing with Road to 56.
Bored Peon Feb 5, 2023 @ 9:35pm 
Different countries have different focus effects on special forces cap.
Also as pointed out years ago the limit is a % of your troops. Built more troops.

A majority of your troops are not going to do anything special but sit there and guard a border, they do not need to be special forces.

On top of that with the By Blood Alone units earn medals. Scattering your medals all over you army is bad compared to piling them up on one unit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2884051161
David Koresh Feb 6, 2023 @ 12:49am 
Originally posted by Lord Castellan Majorian:
Originally posted by OpTixQ:
Special forces limit shows how incompitent paradox is at balancing stuff.
would you just have it so there is no limit at all and everyone can spam Space Marines
space marines will ALWAYS exist no matter what.
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Date Posted: Mar 9, 2018 @ 9:18pm
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