Hearts of Iron IV

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PuttBlug May 16, 2018 @ 10:13am
Grand Battleplan - Assault or Infiltration?
Personally I find assault is overall superior to inf. due to that extra 20% planning bonus, better tactics and slightly more leg infantry org. How important is the 25% night attack bonus of infiltration? Do you find it better to go for the infiltration branch?
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half your battles are going to be at night.
RalphRoberts May 16, 2018 @ 11:00am 
As Lord castellan said, half your battles will be at night.

In addition, the planning bonus only actually helps if you wait until you have full planning to attack, and even then it wears off relatively quickly.
PuttBlug May 16, 2018 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Sir Knight RalphRoberts:
As Lord castellan said, half your battles will be at night.

In addition, the planning bonus only actually helps if you wait until you have full planning to attack, and even then it wears off relatively quickly.


Originally posted by Lord Castellan:
half your battles are going to be at night.
So you guys would say the night bonus offsets the 20% planning bonus and better tactics?
the planning bonus is worth nothing. Better tactics are usually unused
i feel like we should be able to forbid certain tactics making them extremely unused
|H|H| Fr3ddi3 May 16, 2018 @ 12:36pm 
Both sides are good but it depends on the theatre you are figthing in (aka how large the front is) and weither this is against a human or AI.

Against a human im always picking right side because a human won't allow you to sit there for a month to build up planning without trying to stop you. Against the AI, it's a litteral curb stomp to get the 100% max planning bonus.

Aside form that the other factor is theatre, smaller fronts get greater use out of Assault, places like North Africa and Italy for example, but mainland europe gets greater use from infiltration due to the size of the front you gotta cover and the speed at which the advance travels. You simply don't have time to build up a month of planning.
Last edited by |H|H| Fr3ddi3; May 16, 2018 @ 12:37pm
Rodi May 16, 2018 @ 1:09pm 
Just get superior firepower
PuttBlug May 16, 2018 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Rodi:
Just get superior firepower
I used to always pick SF (if I was not playing Germany) before the soft attack nerf, now I'm not so sure. Is it still better overall?
Rodi May 16, 2018 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by total warrior:
Originally posted by Rodi:
Just get superior firepower
I used to always pick SF (if I was not playing Germany) before the soft attack nerf, now I'm not so sure. Is it still better overall?
Atleast this whole threads question is not needed in SF:steammocking:
However I still believe sf is meta due to other misc bonuses
Kanjejou May 16, 2018 @ 2:51pm 
don't forget that a lot of bonus of SF only work on division considered to be artilery in type which mean at least 50% of the batalion need to be arty.

the general bonus are very good, but if you don't use a few arty divisions(at least 4arty4inf for exemple) you only get the global bonuses.

but digging/ planing and night battle affect every kind of division
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Date Posted: May 16, 2018 @ 10:13am
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