How to defeat USA as Mexico?

[Matelite05]

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[Kaiser]

at the start of the game, the US only has 5 divisions(i think) and because of the debuffs at the start they are unable to mass produce divisions like in the late game so you should turn as fast as possible to fascist or communist before the US is able to get rid of the isolation which is what stops them from being op from the start

-of course build an army of mostly 20 width divisions(7 inf 2 arti)
-do not waste resources on what you do not need(such as a navy) because the US can destroy it
-train your division until the level trained(gives an 15% bonus in combat)
-choose your focus tree very carefully(personally for countries without big industries i tend to go for fire superiority)
-and a big advice is DO NOT REPLACE ITEMS WITH FULL EFFICIENCY(such as inf equipment) as your country wont be able to sustain a long fight
-also make sure to declare war on them as early as possible as they may join the allies

i believe that is all you need to know before picking a fight with the US

[chaosguy]

Been done, many times, search youtube.

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

I personaly did it with alot of cav divs, the US has few divs at the start so you easily make breaktroughs and race your cav to their victory points.
You have to deal with them quickly as the longer the war goes they can start removing their debuffs with manpower and industry.

In my expierence they will join the Allies but the British and Canadians wont be able to do to much.

[Mikey]

Originally posted by JS:

at the start of the game, the US only has 5 divisions(i think) and because of the debuffs at the start they are unable to mass produce divisions like in the late game so you should turn as fast as possible to fascist or communist before the US is able to get rid of the isolation which is what stops them from being op from the start

-of course build an army of mostly 20 width divisions(7 inf 2 arti)
-do not waste resources on what you do not need(such as a navy) because the US can destroy it
-train your division until the level trained(gives an 15% bonus in combat)
-choose your focus tree very carefully(personally for countries without big industries i tend to go for fire superiority)
-and a big advice is DO NOT REPLACE ITEMS WITH FULL EFFICIENCY(such as inf equipment) as your country wont be able to sustain a long fight
-also make sure to declare war on them as early as possible as they may join the allies

i believe that is all you need to know before picking a fight with the US

The US starts with 36 units spread out over their territory, 22 of them on the mainland. A bit more than 5...
Getting trained level increases combat stats by 25% not 15%
Not upgrading to new equipment is perhaps the worst advice I have ever seen. If you are losing equipment at a rate where you can barely keep up with it you are pushing too hard too fast. Dig in and let them exhaust themselves instead of pushing into fortified mountains.

As Mexico you can get the highest level infantry equipment shortly after the war starts. The US won't be able to get that which gives you an insane advantage.


Personally I would go in a different direction. You can advance as far as Colombia southwards before the US finishes Pax Americana. They cannot enforce a guarantee on an american DoW without that focus and the Allies don't give a toss about the Americas so you can conquer at your hearts content.
The added industrial base you can get from the conquests means you will be able to fight the US on a relatively equal footing. You will be able to afford a garrison force for your ports along with the frontline troops needed to grind the US troops down.

[Matelite05]

Should I trun on/off historical ai focus becuase the americans go for pax americana without historical ai.And what ideology? Fascist or communist?

[Mikey]

I would say commie. You get a lot of 15% popularity events meaning less time to switch government (usually)

[football5680]

Go Fascist or Communist as quick as possible and just pump out as many pure infantry divisions as you possibly can. Start justifying war right after you change ideology and go to war as soon as possible. The US will have better quality divisions but they will be spread out over a large front so simply having more divisions will win you the war easily.

[Matelite05]

Historical AI off or on?

[football5680]

Originally posted by Matelite05:

Historical AI off or on?

It doesn't make much of a difference but turning it on would make everything more predictable and consistent. The only thing you have to worry about is the US joining the allies. With historical AI off, the World War could start later which would be more advantageous to you and would give your more time but it could also start earlier which would be bad. The strategy I gave is for rapid conquest, not an extended war against multiple majors. If you can capitulate the US and get to the peace deal, you become one of the most powerful countries because of all their civilian factories and resources.

[p]

Originally posted by JS:

at the start of the game, the US only has 5 divisions(i think)

5 DIVISIONS??????????? ITS 35 LOL

[Matelite05]

I tried with fascism conquered 3 states before pax americana I got lot of equipment and weapons but I failed I had historical ai on I hoped that the ♥♥♥♥ would go after the us but nothing happened on 1941.And btw the USA has 55 divisions (19 divisions at border after I started justification).They've maximum equipment (m2 I've trained my units to 3 lvl).Wiht or without historical ai the us joins the allies when I'm fascist or communist.Well I tried to do revenge of the montezuma but ty for the help guys.

[100% lob juice]

GOTTA GO FASCIST
GOTTA GO FAST

[Evilous]

when declaring war goals on the us as mexico world tention goes up 53% and britian will declare their indepennce

[Paper]

any specific infantry designs i should have?

Originally posted by football5680:

Go Fascist or Communist as quick as possible and just pump out as many pure infantry divisions as you possibly can. Start justifying war right after you change ideology and go to war as soon as possible. The US will have better quality divisions but they will be spread out over a large front so simply having more divisions will win you the war easily.

[<#FF69B4>Robin ;3 (she/her)]

Trotsky Mexico. Conquer and core everything up to the Panama Canal, then Take USA out early before properly build up.