In MP games, US/allied lend lease to the Soviets is OP AF and needs to be Nerfed HARD.

[synario]

So I was recently in a high level mp, (majors had thousands of hours) and the host, in control of the US, straight up sent the soviets 5-10k fighters, but no less than 5k fighters.

The rules did prevent the US from lend-leasing before the fall of france, but there no such limits afterwards.

Although I did a fairly good job as axis air controller of ensuring I had plenty of planes/synthetics, (upgraded planes/full researched air doctrine also) the sheer quantity of american planes easily halted our offensive against the experienced russian player.

Please put in some limitation, within the engine itself, to lend-leasing the soviets.

Something as simple as 'no more than 10 percent of monthly production of any particular good' and no dumping lump sums of materials to the soviets, from any particular country.

Such a change to the game engine itself would quickly resolve this issue.

[SmashingSnow]

Why not just make that a limitation in your MP games?

[Random]

they have a limitation in the game itself, its called RAIDING. You could have sunk all those planes out at sea.

10k fighters or whatever would require a crap ton of convoys to deliver. your faction should have had subs raiding their trade route.

Did the axis not even bother to make any ships? was japan involved to blockade the pacific?

[Monki]

Originally posted by Burke:

'Lend-Lease: How American supplies aided the USSR in its darkest hour':

More than 14,000 U.S. airplanes, 8,000 of which came from Alaska, were given to the Soviet Union in the course of the war.

The USSR received a total of 44,000 American jeeps, 375,883 cargo trucks, 8,071 tractors and 12,700 tanks. Additionally, 1,541,590 blankets, 331,066 liters of alcohol, 15,417,000 pairs of army boots, 106,893 tons of cotton, 2,670,000 tons of petroleum products and 4,478,000 tons of food supplies made their way into the Soviet Union.

I'd say you got off easy with only 5-10K planes.

^^^ this man right here knows what's he talking about

[donalddawkins]

perfectly balanced.

the US gimped himself massively by becoming a glorified aircraft factory meaning that the allies would have a severely limited potential for a dday.

Equally, these planes could have easily been wiped if submarines had been deployed with convoy raiding doctrine to boot.

it's frustrating to lose like that, but hopefully you'll learn in future to have an axis dedicated uboat force and, if italy is going fortress italy, a dedicated uboat italy

[synario]

Originally posted by donalddawkins:

perfectly balanced.

the US gimped himself massively by becoming a glorified aircraft factory meaning that the allies would have a severely limited potential for a dday.

Equally, these planes could have easily been wiped if submarines had been deployed with convoy raiding doctrine to boot.

it's frustrating to lose like that, but hopefully you'll learn in future to have an axis dedicated uboat force and, if italy is going fortress italy, a dedicated uboat italy

Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to let my team know how to counter this in the future...I'm surprised by the amount of people with 1k+ hours that are clueless about anything related to navy stuff or subs (myself included..)

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

Would that not meant the US is alot weaker in the Pacific theater?

As in wont Japan get air dominace there since the US is sending all its fighters to Russia?

And even if the US still has enough planes to fight Japan, that means alot of factories are spend on fighters that could be on tanks.


I dont think its a problem wtih lend leasing though, its a problem were the US is on partial mobilization and removed the Great Depression in mid 38 while also having a -10% production cost on fighters.

[donalddawkins]

Originally posted by rob:

Originally posted by donalddawkins:

perfectly balanced.

the US gimped himself massively by becoming a glorified aircraft factory meaning that the allies would have a severely limited potential for a dday.

Equally, these planes could have easily been wiped if submarines had been deployed with convoy raiding doctrine to boot.

it's frustrating to lose like that, but hopefully you'll learn in future to have an axis dedicated uboat force and, if italy is going fortress italy, a dedicated uboat italy

Thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to let my team know how to counter this in the future...I'm surprised by the amount of people with 1k+ hours that are clueless about anything related to navy stuff or subs (myself included..)

Aye be careful in multiplayer games as the US palyer will often follow the meta of a glorified aircraft and landlease factory. It'll mean he's useless for d-day but will make the UK and France much more harder to beat.

In some mp games the US will give france all it's civ factories through trade in 1938 so france can turn all it's civ factories into military factories, which severely gimps the German war machine when france falls.

Trick is to see the host rules before the game and see if it's worth playing; if you know each nations mp meta you can read inbetween the lines of a host's rules to see if he's biased the game in a nations favour or not.

for example, if there's a rule saying no factory boosting, he's balanced the game away from the allied meta, however if he allows spain to join the world war, he's balanced it in favour of the axis powers. It'll save you hours of your life fighting in unfair mp games once you learn the meta and the rules which favour/balance them.