HOI4/HOI3 seem to both be similar huge downgrades of HOI Darkest Hour

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A lot of people here go " Oh, HOI4 is casualized, HOI3 was so much better " but HOI3 and HOI4 are pretty much the same game. HOI4 just makes you micromanage less.

The big difference I see is HOI : DH compared to HOI 3 and HOI4.

HOI3 and HOI4 are pretty much just army management games, where as HOI:DH has a whole Political mechanic to it, a much more in-depth espionage/intelligence system, and your economy in the game actually matters(HOI3 retained this but HOI4 did not)

Basically, there's just more to do in HOI DH, it's not just " Command army, conquer Earth " the politics, diplomacy, intelligence and economy are super in depth.

I really wish they would have brought these systems back in HOI4, I still think HOI4 is a good game and it has its own upsides, but not having these features carried over as the series goes on just seems to be pure laziness.

[SGT Spack 7]

hoi4 is a good game.... is this a late aprils fools? has more glitches and bugs and ai cheating than any other game

[spike2071]

Originally posted by JohnTheGreat:

I really wish they would have brought these systems back in HOI4, I still think HOI4 is a good game and it has its own upsides, but not having these features carried over as the series goes on just seems to be pure laziness.

It's not laziness. Darkest Hour was essentially an overhaul mod made by people who wanted a more in depth game. I don't think Paradox had anything to do with it, aside from licensing the HoI2 engine. If Darkest Hour had sold well, we would be seeing DH2, or at least elements of it.

I personally found DH entertaining for 1 or 2 attempts, then just boring (same with HoI2). There are definitely things I liked about it (mostly things from HoI2 like the research firms), but Paradox isn't going for that kind of depth. Look at how many people complain about the learning curve of 4.

Originally posted by SGT Spack 7:

hoi4 is a good game.... is this a late aprils fools? has more glitches and bugs and ai cheating than any other game

You must like it. You keep playing it.

[IrishVolunteer]

Originally posted by SGT Spack 7:

hoi4 is a good game.... is this a late aprils fools? has more glitches and bugs and ai cheating than any other game

Nope AI spams ships and cant even get to europe as the US

[GoldenTalon]

Darkest Hour was the pinnacle of the Hoi series so I buy your argument in that score. Hoi3 was much richer and historical than Hoi4 so there we part ways.

[Primarch Timmy]

I forgot you can start the game at 1914 and play through the Cold war. 10 buck game already has more content

[Kegbelly]

hoi4 is only getting close to what it should have been like at release . darkest hour is a better game than it atm . but who knows whats planned for hoi4 .
im not wanting to bash paradox . but honestly they have went down a road with stellaris and hoi4 thats casual friendly and i woud have prefered it to have been in more in depth .but thats just me im pretty sure alot of people prefer the game to be strategy light but as a wargame in the traditional sense hoi4 is kinda a fail

[GoldenTalon]

Originally posted by Zendu:

hoi4 is only getting close to what it should have been like at release . darkest hour is a better game than it atm . but who knows whats planned for hoi4 .
im not wanting to bash paradox . but honestly they have went down a road with stellaris and hoi4 thats casual friendly and i woud have prefered it to have been in more in depth .but thats just me im pretty sure alot of people prefer the game to be strategy light but as a wargame in the traditional sense hoi4 is kinda a fail

I don't expect much improvement given it's been three years. We'll probably get one more lame DLC and that will be the end of it.

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