Hearts of Iron IV

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I'm Monkey May 4, 2019 @ 8:53pm
Stop AI from declaring war?
I'm playing as Germany and have a sweet setup. I have a fair amount of allies and I am fighting the soviets. We are pushing them back, and then good ol' Mussolini decides to declare war on the allies (which have more members in the balkans in this game). This destroys me, I cannot support a war on 4 fronts because a few of the allied countries are almost surrounded by axis land (but not entirely, which means it is well enforced), as well as needing to fight the soviets, french, english, and any other allies across the map.

I have reloaded the autosave about 4 times and every time is the same result. Is there anyway to prevent Italy from killing me?
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You dont realy, depens on your setup.
What year is it, is historical focuses on?
What you could do is pause the game, tag switch to Italy and cancel the focus they do that gives them a war goal. Its a bit cheating, but its a single player game so who cares.
But in general if the AI will use its war goals it gets from their focus tree.
Last edited by Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ; May 5, 2019 @ 12:38am
I'm Monkey May 5, 2019 @ 6:55am 
Historical focuses are off, which is why i'm confused by it. It's 1940, but ill just do that.
glythe May 5, 2019 @ 10:13am 
Italy really likes to F**k up your plans if you play as Germany. You can fix that by killing them off.



Originally posted by Ëvïlnïck8:
But in general if the AI will use its war goals it gets from their focus tree.
Yeah and that kinda ruins doing interesting things....

For example Japan did its focus for taking the dutch east indes which I have owned since the first year or so of gameplay.

We signed the Tri pact and I have 100 relation with him, and sent him volunteers for china. He didn't care and declared war.
FuzoFox Jun 6, 2023 @ 2:06am 
Why is there no mod for
Panda V4 Jun 6, 2023 @ 2:11am 
You know you are not forced to join wars? If Italy wants to get f*cked by the allies than let them. You can just continue your war with the USSR at your pace.
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glythe Jun 6, 2023 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Panda V4:
You know you are not forced to join wars? If Italy wants to get f*cked by the allies than let them. You can just continue your war with the USSR at your pace.

That is a fair point but requires some knowledge ahead of time. You can be leader of the axis and keep all your wars private. The easiest way to do that is to only include members who cannot create wars via the focus tree.

The problem is that if you call any ally to war they will call all other nations to war. So if someone declares on Japan or Italy then there's going to be situations that you can't easily avoid.

It is incredibly simple for example to play as Germany and do a double war at the game start and then play "historically" up to 1939 to start WWII. But Rushing world tension can have some dire consequences. Usually it means the US has to sit out for a longer time.


Originally posted by I'm Monkey:
I have reloaded the autosave about 4 times and every time is the same result. Is there anyway to prevent Italy from killing me?

Sadly there probably is not. This is where it pays to have knowledge ahead of time of what focuses Italy/Japan are likely to use.

If you want them in the faction then they either need to be a puppet or not be allowed to join wars. This prevents whatever problems they can normally cause.

It is because those countries have focuses to start wars that I never sign the tripartite pact with Italy/Germany.
I'm Monkey Jun 6, 2023 @ 9:38am 
Mfs what are you doing here? I made this thread 4 years ago
glythe Jun 6, 2023 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by I'm Monkey:
Mfs what are you doing here? I made this thread 4 years ago

I didn't look at the original post date only the replies. I just like to occasionally help new people trying to figure out the game.
I'm Monkey Jun 6, 2023 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by glythe:
Originally posted by I'm Monkey:
Mfs what are you doing here? I made this thread 4 years ago

I didn't look at the original post date only the replies. I just like to occasionally help new people trying to figure out the game.
Fair enough, IDK why Fuzo pulled this post out the grave
Wyzard Jun 6, 2023 @ 11:40am 
why is it a problem to post on a OLD Topic ?
Včelí medvídek Jun 6, 2023 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Wyzard:
why is it a problem to post on a OLD Topic ?
For example because after game release AI declared war at very moment it got war goal 100% time but later various weighting before before war declaring was added (so even it is no fixed rule with not railroaded war declarations -like in historical focus game - you can even see game where Germany and SSSR never attack each other despite getting respective war goals in focuses and so on)

Its not like the original issue can not exists today, but many things changed in game over the years including major changes in core mechanics and features - it is often very misleading follow old topics and build on obsolete experience today, not to mention it is usually not any more relevant for the original posters.
Last edited by Včelí medvídek; Jun 6, 2023 @ 12:26pm
Rule #1 - You do NOT stop AI. AI stops you!
velvetcrabman Jun 6, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
I solve that one by eating Italy right after Jugoslavia, take the fleet, fragment as much as possible into puppets, then rush to annex the puppet created by the revolution, because the focus tree makes that nearly as big an arse as a whole Italy. To be fair, going that course you can kill the allies in '40 before taking out USA then Russia but it doesn't help you in current game.
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Date Posted: May 4, 2019 @ 8:53pm
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