Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

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Allied Ai Too weak at current state, making it impossible to win as a minor.
i played as canada last time, UK ai was just spamming their division on naval invansion over europe countless times till he bleed its manpowers (at least the navy and air didn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up). United States just being united states, made 300 divisions but decided to put all of it on africa and main land, he even ignored the pacific island. He just gave it away to the japanese with very little resistance (including hawaii).

while germany, in 1939. They already got 400-1k divisions, managed to weaken the soviet with 13 million manpowers.

italians are italians, i easily kick em out from africa. But the italian mainland is sick af, i can only manage to land on sicily and gain a foothold there with an epic stalemate.

the japanese ? they tackled the chinese at 1939. Succesfuly invaded new zealand, east indies and papua, and made a very powerful push into india.

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zz_tophat Jun 6, 2019 @ 3:14am 
The US ai is terrible, just horrible, cannot do anything, I haven't had one game that I have won as the allies where they contributed much to the war effort. A few patches back, they would reliably knock out japan, now, they struggle against mexico, it's pathetic.
Battle_Tyrant Jun 6, 2019 @ 3:16am 
They definitely need to buff the allies AI and make china harder to conquer for japan, right now it's way too easy to conquer china.
zz_tophat Jun 6, 2019 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by Battle_Tyrant:
They definitely need to buff the allies AI and make china harder to conquer for japan, right now it's way too easy to conquer china.

I give china the 10% boost... it helps a bit. Sometimes.
Robbih Jun 6, 2019 @ 4:37am 
Russia in my game dead 1943. Last 5 games Patch 1.6.2 Russia Always lost. Now first game in 1.7 Russia was even worse somehow.
Its hard to buff/debuff the AI. In one patch people complain Germany gets steamrolled, then they complain its USSR, then its UK, and so on.

There is no AI in the game, just a set of pre-determined rules to follow. Thats why the AI feels stupid. And it always will.
Scrotum Scratcher Jun 6, 2019 @ 10:30am 
The US AI is really bad. US AI doesn't do anything so the allies lose easily.
willowbank :3 Jun 6, 2019 @ 5:34pm 
US AI didn't even bother for lend lease
solidus_snake Jun 6, 2019 @ 8:59pm 
Try expert ai mod,not achievment compatable but makes the game playable
glythe Jun 6, 2019 @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by DrDalek:
i played as canada last time

italians are italians, i easily kick em out from africa. But the italian mainland is sick af, i can only manage to land on sicily and gain a foothold there with an epic stalemate.

the japanese ? they tackled the chinese at 1939. Succesfuly invaded new zealand, east indies and papua, and made a very powerful push into india.

Should Canada be able to defeat Germany without becoming a superpower? Ok maybe that's not a fair question... yes the USA and UK are having issues and need some AI order tweaks.

If you are in Italy and landed successfully with a port then you should be able to advance. Not to be rude but I suspect you have an error somewhere with production. Do you have air support? Do you have support divisions on your army? What is your template?

Do you have TfV? That DLC makes the allies a lot stronger.
willowbank :3 Jun 6, 2019 @ 10:02pm 
i have all the dlc, put 2/4 factories on planes 1940 (with Light Airplanes designer and variants with 2 engines) and even researched Marines 2 and made some good 18width marines with some shovels and artillery support just to jump over from sicily to italy.

but the axis put like 1200 CAS and 4000ish Fighters over italy. And allies planes ? idk where tf they put those 10k planes. I only had 2400ish fighters at the time, with some 300ish CAS II i made from 2 factories.

i actually managed to landed on naples, and cut off some of their divisions that holding italy-sicily strait. But my 24 infantry divisions and 8 40w Light tank divisions are not enough to stop the overwhelmingly Germans-Italians troops. So i had to strategicly retreat while sacrificing 4
divisions to holdout the line while the rest evacuated.
Last edited by willowbank :3; Jun 6, 2019 @ 10:03pm
glythe Jun 6, 2019 @ 10:27pm 
Just so you know... light tank divisions are destined to fail. Even with +5 armor they get pierced way too easily with upgraded weapons and soldier tech. Tanks are also terrible in Italy specifically as there are mountains all over the place (unless Canada has an adaptable general I don't know about).

The Raj accounts for a good portion of the Allied fighter production with thousands of old WWI planes. They stay in India unless the Brits are in serious trouble.

If you happened to have an earlier save of this game (assuming not ironman) you could go back and try to see what would happen if you had spent more production on AA.

When you made your landing did you make use of the fake invasion trick? Since the AI cheats and has knowledge of all troops in game it is only fair to psych him out with fake naval invasion forces.

Mikey Jun 6, 2019 @ 10:31pm 
The AI has always been bad at naval landings. They tend to land a couple divisions that either get killed off quickly or retreat immediately.

The AI is also quite poor at working with itself. The Allies are a huge entity with a huge industrial potential, but the AI still tries to get every member to do everything.
So all members have their own navy, their own air force and their own army and do not focus on anything in particular. This in the end kills them off as they get isolated quickly.
willowbank :3 Jun 6, 2019 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by glythe:
Just so you know... light tank divisions are destined to fail. Even with +5 armor they get pierced way too easily with upgraded weapons and soldier tech. Tanks are also terrible in Italy specifically as there are mountains all over the place (unless Canada has an adaptable general I don't know about).

The Raj accounts for a good portion of the Allied fighter production with thousands of old WWI planes. They stay in India unless the Brits are in serious trouble.

If you happened to have an earlier save of this game (assuming not ironman) you could go back and try to see what would happen if you had spent more production on AA.

When you made your landing did you make use of the fake invasion trick? Since the AI cheats and has knowledge of all troops in game it is only fair to psych him out with fake naval invasion forces.

Gonna try and go for AA and mountainers (if it needed) next game as canada, i was playing on iron so no replaying i guess. Thanks for the tip though.
glythe Jun 7, 2019 @ 2:31am 
Something else that might help... if you can do anything to save china it can make all the difference in the world.

I suspect that one reason the AI is having issues is because submarines are currently bugged unless you mod them. Last patch subs had a 50% detection chance when they fired which could be modified via technology. This patch meant to change it to 40% but accidently changed it to 4% giving submarines an unintended buff.

It may be the case that the UK and USA are getting their lend-lease supplies blown up by Axis subs which are essentially invisible.

If you arent keen on modding it out you can use subs to blow up the Axis troops on their way to Africa and back.
GoldenTalon (Banned) Jun 8, 2019 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by zz_tophat:
The US ai is terrible, just horrible, cannot do anything, I haven't had one game that I have won as the allies where they contributed much to the war effort. A few patches back, they would reliably knock out japan, now, they struggle against mexico, it's pathetic.
US AI has never worked sine launched.


Originally posted by solidus_snake:
Try expert ai mod,not achievment compatable but makes the game playable
You need MtG DLC now so I can't even is Expert AI anymore.
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