How to annex Czechoslovakia as Germany?

[gaming]

I always see Germany annex Czechoslovakia without kicking off WW2, how? The closest I've come to that is them denying my claims, but at that time they were in the allies already.

[Včelí medvídek]

If you have historical focuses ON and dont raise the world tension by eg. some non-historical early wars than "usually" reaction on historical focuses is as expected. It is not guarnteed but it should be 80%+ if you jsut follow focus tree there.

It is usually player himself who make countries act different way by acting non-historical way himself. World tension and wars have biggest effect.

[gaming]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

If you have historical focuses ON and dont raise the world tension by eg. some non-historical early wars than "usually" reaction on historical focuses is as expected. It is not guarnteed but it should be 80%+ if you jsut follow focus tree there.

It is usually player himself who make countries act different way by acting non-historical way himself. World tension and wars have biggest effect.

I did all the claim national focuses and that brought the world tension above 25% for some reason, everything historical.

[Astra Militarum]

Do the rheinland, build one brigade divisions deploy them ASAP until you reach 550k men, do the anschluss, switch those lame divisions for your regular infantry, do the demand sudetenland, they will accept, do the rest of the focuses for annexing it. This is just for doing it fast, even without this exploit they will accept if the WT is below 24%.

[Včelí medvídek]

For fulfill the fielded manpower needs you can deploy undertrained and not fully eqiped troops. At recruit tab there is small arrow at each division in training - if you press it it is deployed prematurely as it is. You can later delete them or just wait for full equipment and get to combat status by training command. For field manpower you can deploy them shortly after recruitment starts.

Early world tension is usualy caused by Spanish civil war and Japan-Chinese. You can check it in detail in game. I dont have any exact values in head but as said -so long as player follow historical route than even AI decisions and reactions are +/- historical (at least until great war trigger). And ofc Historical focuses must be ON as otherwise likely countries go different ways and doing not expected things.

[gaming]

Thanks.

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

It's a combination of 4 things which stops a player from getting what they want.

1 - Leave it too late

Providing war did not break out over the Rhineland focus, AI Germany will Demand Sudetenland in 1938, between September and October. If you demand Sudetenland around that date, anytime before or shortly after. They 'should' accept the demand. If you leave it much longer than that, CZE will eventually take a focus which puts them in the Allies and / or the Allies will build up a large enough force to feel confident of stopping you and thus, will stand by CZE.

2 - World Tension is too high

The Allies are a hard counter to Axis expansion, world police if you like. You cannot avoid war with them forever while also expanding, you can however 'pick and choose' what parts of Europe you want to have under your control before they can stop you / before they are willing to stop you, this is because the Allies are not allowed to do anything before 25% World Tension.

If you only do Rhineland and Anschluss, CZE 'Should' accept the demand providing you do it in a timely manner, aka before some other country causes a huge WT spike. If you go alt history and invade other countries via conflict, or demand territories ahead of time which Germany did not historically have, then the 'hard counter' will kick in.

Essentially, you cannot have your cake and eat it, if you want CZE you can't also have Yugoslavia, Poland or The Netherlands ect ect.

3 - Simple chance.

Both CZE and the Allies are given the option to fight Germany, by default the AI is weighted to ceede without fighting, but they still have a small chance to say no. This is more or less to keep the player on their toes, If CZE always accepts the demand, you'd never bother to have your forces ready just in case war breaks out. So there is always a small % chance that war breaks out. If you go against points 1 and 2, then that % chance goes up.

4 - They're not scared of you.

Simple one really, if they or the Allies don't fear your army, they won't surrender. Make sure you have a large army and make sure it it positioned on their borders, essentially gunboat diplomacy ... except with land forces. This one is not as big a deal as the others but it still has an effect.

There is always a chance they'll say no, but providing you don't leave it too late, you have intimidation on your side and don't go crazy and invade / annex everyone then you should have the highest chances to get them.

For reference, iv'e never had it fail me when I've played relatively close to the historical order of things.

[Blue Foot]

You don't even need to do this. You can kill poland in 1937, kill Netherlands and they'll get garunteed. Send some garbo divisions to defend the magi not and justify on belgium. Blitz through there and capitulate france. Paradrop into newcastle, hull, or East Anglia and capture the British Isles with the full strength of the Werhmacht(defending french ports is a waste of time and resources). Congratulations, you've capitulated the allies before 1939 with around 50 divisions before you've even done anchluss.

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Originally posted by Blue Foot:

You don't even need to do this. You can kill poland in 1937, kill Netherlands and they'll get garunteed. Send some garbo divisions to defend the magi not and justify on belgium. Blitz through there and capitulate france. Paradrop into newcastle, hull, or East Anglia and capture the British Isles with the full strength of the Werhmacht(defending french ports is a waste of time and resources). Congratulations, you've capitulated the allies before 1939 with around 50 divisions before you've even done anchluss.

You can beat the allies in 1937, but that's not what the OP asked.

[Blue Foot]

Originally posted by |H|H| Fr3ddi3:

Originally posted by Blue Foot:

You don't even need to do this. You can kill poland in 1937, kill Netherlands and they'll get garunteed. Send some garbo divisions to defend the magi not and justify on belgium. Blitz through there and capitulate france. Paradrop into newcastle, hull, or East Anglia and capture the British Isles with the full strength of the Werhmacht(defending french ports is a waste of time and resources). Congratulations, you've capitulated the allies before 1939 with around 50 divisions before you've even done anchluss.

You can beat the allies in 1937, but that's not what the OP asked.

And yet if you beat the allies Czechoslovakia becomes, more inclined persay, to accept your demands.

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Actually iv'e had them fight me a fair number of times under that situation.

[Menegele Jožo]

mass your army on their border, id say 2 full armies are enoug, but also tension under 30, above 25 they will get guaranteed but thats ok, look how it worked out irl for them