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William Dec 21, 2016 @ 8:36am
Best divisions for fighting in china?
My troops are taking utterly insane casualties in Qinghai because of the terrain modifier. How the hell do you attack units on mountains?
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Lysenko Dec 21, 2016 @ 9:05am 
Mountaineer divisions should help you there, I believe they take less attrition in mountains.
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Lysenkoite:
Mountaineer divisions should help you there, I believe they take less attrition in mountains.
Do they have any negative for fighting in jungles and flat plains?
PAP - Jantulga Dec 21, 2016 @ 9:53am 
ordinary japan troops should be ok since you start too much with them. Just put some marines so you can invade through southeast also.
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by Steafun:
ordinary japan troops should be ok since you start too much with them. Just put some marines so you can invade through southeast also.
I'm not playing as Japan.
PAP - Jantulga Dec 21, 2016 @ 9:57am 
the key point against asian countries = artillery. You need soft attack so you can crush their manpower and make them flee.
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Steafun:
the key point against asian countries = artillery. You need soft attack so you can crush their manpower and make them flee.
I have artillery

It's not the soldier's themselves, but breaking their defence.

I always lose when attacking mountains.
PAP - Jantulga Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:03am 
mountains requires more support such as air superiority , close air support , mountaineers etc.
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:04am 
Originally posted by Steafun:
mountains requires more support such as air superiority , close air support , mountaineers etc.
I have the first 2

Do mountaineers get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if they fight in other parts of china like jungles?
Shura Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:07am 
create a small front of battle, 3 or 4 provinces for one army of 24 soldiers. create the ofensive line and wait until they have the full bonus from preparation. when they have dont atk yet. at the bottom of the army picture you see the army str comparation, keep the eye on it and keep fighting in other provinces while that. eventually the AI will need to move troops to other places where the war are striking harder. when you see the bar at your favor you launch the atk.
HugsAndSnuggles Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by gay luigi:
Do mountaineers get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if they fight in other parts of china like jungles?
No, they simply get bonus for hills and mountains. Otherwise it's a bit more expensive version of regular infantry.
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by HugsAndSnuggles:
Originally posted by gay luigi:
Do mountaineers get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if they fight in other parts of china like jungles?
No, they simply get bonus for hills and mountains. Otherwise it's a bit more expensive version of regular infantry.
So if you can afford it, it's okay to build your entire army out of Mountaineers and Marines?

One more question

If i integrate Mountaineers into my infantry army, will the mountaineers automatically be prioritized for attacking mountains rather than generic infantry?
HugsAndSnuggles Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by gay luigi:
Originally posted by HugsAndSnuggles:
No, they simply get bonus for hills and mountains. Otherwise it's a bit more expensive version of regular infantry.
So if you can afford it, it's okay to build your entire army out of Mountaineers and Marines?
Yes, don't see much of a point tho. If you can afford it - you can build armor for breakthrough, and infantry's main job becomes holding that line.
Originally posted by gay luigi:
If i integrate Mountaineers into my infantry army, will the mountaineers automatically be prioritized for attacking mountains rather than generic infantry?
Depends on what you mean by that. Basically, no: whatever division is available will carry out attack order (manual or one they are assigned to), no prioritizing.
Last edited by HugsAndSnuggles; Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:21am
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by HugsAndSnuggles:
Originally posted by gay luigi:
So if you can afford it, it's okay to build your entire army out of Mountaineers and Marines?
Yes, don't see much of a point tho, because if you can afford it, you usually can build armor for breakthrough, and infantry's main job becomes holding that line.
Originally posted by gay luigi:
If i integrate Mountaineers into my infantry army, will the mountaineers automatically be prioritized for attacking mountains rather than generic infantry?
Depends on what you mean by that. Basically, no: whatever division is available will carry out attack order (manual or one they are assigned to), no prioritizing.
I can't just use armor for breakthrough

My infantry have a heavy tank with them but still suck ass on mountains.
PAP - Jantulga Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:29am 
It's the mountains bro. You don't expect to attack well there. Train mountaineers so you can have some bonuses. Otherwise you shouldn't be attacking to mountains.
William Dec 21, 2016 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Steafun:
It's the mountains bro. You don't expect to attack well there. Train mountaineers so you can have some bonuses. Otherwise you shouldn't be attacking to mountains.
Fair enough. No valuable cities there.

Still silly though that 60 divisions can lose to 6 on a mountain.
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