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Noah Dec 17, 2016 @ 5:13pm
Giving Allies Nukes?
I feel there should be a feature to give ally players and nations spare nuclear arms, this would really help with immersion and realism.
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The Black Raven Dec 18, 2016 @ 2:54pm 
At that time in real life nuclear weapons we a very advcnced and secret weapons. Even the knolage of their existance was a closely guarded secret. No leader in his right mind would even consider giving these expensive and secret weapons away, especially if the other side doesnt know how to proparly handle them. I therefore think it is quite realistic not to be able to give nukes away.
Chasp Dec 18, 2016 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by The Black Raven:
At that time in real life nuclear weapons we a very advcnced and secret weapons. Even the knolage of their existance was a closely guarded secret. No leader in his right mind would even consider giving these expensive and secret weapons away, especially if the other side doesnt know how to proparly handle them. I therefore think it is quite realistic not to be able to give nukes away.
I would like to refer you to the the American Nuclear umbrella, for example, in the scheme, the Netherlands currently has around 40 nukes, that were just simply given to them by the Americans. It's done in real life, so should be an option, maybe in a lend lease scheme.
Shura Dec 18, 2016 @ 3:27pm 
well everytime iv played, the allies nuke somewhere.
Chasp Dec 18, 2016 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Shura:
well everytime iv played, the allies nuke somewhere.
Not the faction, people who you are allied with
Noah Dec 18, 2016 @ 3:53pm 
This should be optional regardless of weather or not certain leaders in the past were secretive with these arms, as an allied group you are working together against the enemy and should therefore be able to share technology that COULD be the solution to ending the war.
Noah Dec 18, 2016 @ 3:54pm 
I am asking for a feature to share nucleur bombs with allied nations you are at war with, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Please add this paradox.
The Black Raven Dec 18, 2016 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by Chasp:
I would like to refer you to the the American Nuclear umbrella, for example, in the scheme, the Netherlands currently has around 40 nukes, that were just simply given to them by the Americans. It's done in real life, so should be an option, maybe in a lend lease scheme.
What you are talking about is not giving nukes away. The dutch agreed to let america keep their nukes in the Netherlands yet america is the only one who can launch them. The Netherlands cant use those nukes in any way. You can use friendly territory to drop nukes in the game. All you need is a bomber.
Noah Dec 18, 2016 @ 11:46pm 
Should still be added, if you're hitler and you wanna give italy nukes, you should be able to. I doubt hitler cared much.
The Black Raven Dec 19, 2016 @ 2:36am 
Originally posted by Noah:
Should still be added, if you're hitler and you wanna give italy nukes, you should be able to. I doubt hitler cared much.
Its probably not in because of the rare chance you will actually need it. But i guess a mod can be made to enable this. Also you can try and sugest it to the devs.
Noah Dec 19, 2016 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by The Black Raven:
Originally posted by Noah:
Should still be added, if you're hitler and you wanna give italy nukes, you should be able to. I doubt hitler cared much.
Its probably not in because of the rare chance you will actually need it. But i guess a mod can be made to enable this. Also you can try and sugest it to the devs.

How would I go about suggesting it to the devs? this thread is the only way I know how.
Well, I was playing as communist canada and it was going great and all until I needed nucleur arms to take on america because their army was too large. I strongly feel this should be apart of the game. Doesn't matter what past leader though, nucleur arms may have been secretive but they really aren't all that amazing, You should be able to transfer nukes.
The Black Raven Dec 19, 2016 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by Noah:
Originally posted by The Black Raven:
Its probably not in because of the rare chance you will actually need it. But i guess a mod can be made to enable this. Also you can try and sugest it to the devs.

How would I go about suggesting it to the devs? this thread is the only way I know how.
Well, I was playing as communist canada and it was going great and all until I needed nucleur arms to take on america because their army was too large. I strongly feel this should be apart of the game. Doesn't matter what past leader though, nucleur arms may have been secretive but they really aren't all that amazing, You should be able to transfer nukes.
Nukes had the power to wipe entire armies off the face of the earth. They had the power to swing entire wars around in minuts. Nations would cower in fear when hearing about these weapons of death and fire. I would call that quite amazing.
Noah Dec 19, 2016 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by The Black Raven:
Originally posted by Noah:

How would I go about suggesting it to the devs? this thread is the only way I know how.
Well, I was playing as communist canada and it was going great and all until I needed nucleur arms to take on america because their army was too large. I strongly feel this should be apart of the game. Doesn't matter what past leader though, nucleur arms may have been secretive but they really aren't all that amazing, You should be able to transfer nukes.
Nukes had the power to wipe entire armies off the face of the earth. They had the power to swing entire wars around in minuts. Nations would cower in fear when hearing about these weapons of death and fire. I would call that quite amazing.

At the time yes. Not so amazing now.
Chasp Dec 19, 2016 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by The Black Raven:
Originally posted by Noah:

How would I go about suggesting it to the devs? this thread is the only way I know how.
Well, I was playing as communist canada and it was going great and all until I needed nucleur arms to take on america because their army was too large. I strongly feel this should be apart of the game. Doesn't matter what past leader though, nucleur arms may have been secretive but they really aren't all that amazing, You should be able to transfer nukes.
Nukes had the power to wipe entire armies off the face of the earth. They had the power to swing entire wars around in minuts. Nations would cower in fear when hearing about these weapons of death and fire. I would call that quite amazing.
The Nuclear weapons of the 1940s are not the nuclear weapons of today, Gadget, Little Boy, and Fat Man, pale in comparison to Trident warheads or anything of the sort. While they do have the capability to wipe out half a city, they do not have the power to destroy an entire Army Group, becuase the nukes of the day were only strategic, no tactical nukes had been developed.
Noah Dec 19, 2016 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Chasp:
Originally posted by The Black Raven:
Nukes had the power to wipe entire armies off the face of the earth. They had the power to swing entire wars around in minuts. Nations would cower in fear when hearing about these weapons of death and fire. I would call that quite amazing.
The Nuclear weapons of the 1940s are not the nuclear weapons of today, Gadget, Little Boy, and Fat Man, pale in comparison to Trident warheads or anything of the sort. While they do have the capability to wipe out half a city, they do not have the power to destroy an entire Army Group, becuase the nukes of the day were only strategic, no tactical nukes had been developed.

I am aware. Atomic bombs are not as strong as nucleur bombs, and that is my point. I get that many countries didn't want to give away such technology but what about when both nations who are allied together are fully researched in nucleur technology, isn't there reason behind giving nukes to allies then?
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Date Posted: Dec 17, 2016 @ 5:13pm
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