Forts not working HOI4

[javiertm]

So I'm playing as Checoslovakia and decided to build forts to defend against Germany but when they attacked my forts just gave 2.5% defense instead of 15 per level. Does anyone know why this could be happening?

[fakemon64]

maybe they were using a general with a fort attack trait. ALso other elements within their divisions may be causing it. Certain units are better at attack forts than others. I would guess it's a combination of the two.

Either way i'm sure that sucked for you. lulz

[William The Bastard]

have the forts been damaged this happens when enemy bombs ur forts

[PuttBlug]

The Germans have a general with a fort attack bonus, also every fort level that gets damaged provides no more defense bonuses to you, also attacking from multiple sides reduces the defense bonuses of each individual fort by a percentage.

[Kay_Jay_extra]

Same i am having the same problem and i also am playing with czechoslovakia and the the german generals dont have any bunker buster trait and some battles they are not using tanks and it is still having no effect on germans but as soon as i attack them then they work

Thanks Paradox

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Kay_Jay_extra:

Same i am having the same problem and i also am playing with czechoslovakia and the the german generals dont have any bunker buster trait and some battles they are not using tanks and it is still having no effect on germans but as soon as i attack them then they work

Thanks Paradox

It's not a game bug, you just don't know how forts work. Forts can be negated by attacking them from multiple directions. As others have stated, damaging the forts remove their effects too.

I believe this is what you are looking for:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700926253

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by Kay_Jay_extra:

Same i am having the same problem and i also am playing with czechoslovakia and the the german generals dont have any bunker buster trait and some battles they are not using tanks and it is still having no effect on germans but as soon as i attack them then they work

Thanks Paradox

Dude what are you doing attacking Czechoslovakia as Germany in the first place, let alone the fact that you're blind and haven't seen the fort buster traits of a couple German generals. Play the game a bit to learn focus trees and mechanics before you start raging about how your mostly infantry army can't get past level 5 or 7 forts. lol

[Kay_Jay_extra]

Originally posted by Ryan:

Originally posted by Kay_Jay_extra:

Same i am having the same problem and i also am playing with czechoslovakia and the the german generals dont have any bunker buster trait and some battles they are not using tanks and it is still having no effect on germans but as soon as i attack them then they work

Thanks Paradox

It's not a game bug, you just don't know how forts work. Forts can be negated by attacking them from multiple directions. As others have stated, damaging the forts remove their effects too.

I believe this is what you are looking for:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700926253

The forts had no damage done to them and attacking from multiple directions does not make it that it completley negates the forts ability as it only helps it a bit

[Kay_Jay_extra]

Originally posted by Supreme leader Aladeen:

Originally posted by Kay_Jay_extra:

Same i am having the same problem and i also am playing with czechoslovakia and the the german generals dont have any bunker buster trait and some battles they are not using tanks and it is still having no effect on germans but as soon as i attack them then they work

Thanks Paradox

Dude what are you doing attacking Czechoslovakia as Germany in the first place, let alone the fact that you're blind and haven't seen the fort buster traits of a couple German generals. Play the game a bit to learn focus trees and mechanics before you start raging about how your mostly infantry army can't get past level 5 or 7 forts. lol

1.Clearly you havent even read my comment
2.before you just start raging and calling me an "idiot" i have seen quite a few of people win while playing as the czechs so i thought of seeing how badly i can do with playing with them
3.i have almost clocked in with 500 hours in playing in hoi4 and i do know what i am doing, since it works before on other countries and not in this one
4.also calm down its just a comment

[andersrlarsen]

Originally posted by Supreme leader Aladeen:

Originally posted by Kay_Jay_extra:

Same i am having the same problem and i also am playing with czechoslovakia and the the german generals dont have any bunker buster trait and some battles they are not using tanks and it is still having no effect on germans but as soon as i attack them then they work

Thanks Paradox

Dude what are you doing attacking Czechoslovakia as Germany in the first place, let alone the fact that you're blind and haven't seen the fort buster traits of a couple German generals. Play the game a bit to learn focus trees and mechanics before you start raging about how your mostly infantry army can't get past level 5 or 7 forts. lol

i usually attack czech in march 37.
i start with justifying on dutch east indies and yugoslavia after doing rhineland focus, and can then declare war on both february 24th 1937. the allies wont do anything since world tension is too low.
i also start anscluss focus feb 24th, which give me 70 days to finish of holland and czech. which goes easily. it also let yugo deal with croatia, which breakes free and start a war. after anscluss, i steamroll over yugo, and i then save myself for 420 days of focuses to get those two countries. i also get holland, and the opportunity to satelite east indies.

east indies also have a nice manpower, and i start building 120 divisions of their template. i build military factories to lower Autonomy level to puppet, so they will use 90% manpower in the divisions instead of initially 60%. i also get to trade oil and rubber for less factories.

this is, in my opinion, the best way to start with germany.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by andersrlarsen:

Originally posted by Supreme leader Aladeen:

Dude what are you doing attacking Czechoslovakia as Germany in the first place, let alone the fact that you're blind and haven't seen the fort buster traits of a couple German generals. Play the game a bit to learn focus trees and mechanics before you start raging about how your mostly infantry army can't get past level 5 or 7 forts. lol

i usually attack czech in march 37.
i start with justifying on dutch east indies and yugoslavia after doing rhineland focus, and can then declare war on both february 24th 1937. the allies wont do anything since world tension is too low.
i also start anscluss focus feb 24th, which give me 70 days to finish of holland and czech. which goes easily. it also let yugo deal with croatia, which breakes free and start a war. after anscluss, i steamroll over yugo, and i then save myself for 420 days of focuses to get those two countries. i also get holland, and the opportunity to satelite east indies.

east indies also have a nice manpower, and i start building 120 divisions of their template. i build military factories to lower Autonomy level to puppet, so they will use 90% manpower in the divisions instead of initially 60%. i also get to trade oil and rubber for less factories.

this is, in my opinion, the best way to start with germany.

As Germany it's counter-productive to attack countries which are given to you freely through your focus tree. You can easily annex France and take all their navy, then invade Great Britain and even dissolve the Allies.

Originally posted by Kay_Jay_extra:

1.Clearly you havent even read my comment
2.before you just start raging and calling me an "idiot" i have seen quite a few of people win while playing as the czechs so i thought of seeing how badly i can do with playing with them
3.i have almost clocked in with 500 hours in playing in hoi4 and i do know what i am doing, since it works before on other countries and not in this one
4.also calm down its just a comment

I just realized, sorry. Don't know how I thought you were playing Germany. Ok so to address your comment correctly, you shouldn't attack the Germans back unless you're confident that your allies can help you. You have an obvious massive disadvantage against them and to be honest I never tried it.

Taureor has succeeded in this challenge though so if you wish to do this have a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVeZ2l0a3e4

[andersrlarsen]

it actually isnt counter-productive.
it takes 210 days going through the focus tree just to annex czech, and you even loose some of it to hungary.
then another 210 days to annex yugo, and here you loose some to both hungary and bulgaria.
that is 420 days too annex 2 countries, while i use 100 days and also take holland and east indies (satelite).
germany have a focus tree that give plenty of stuff, and there are lots of other stuff i will be able to get through instead.
also, i get their factories much earlier than i would if i went through the focus tree.

only if i decide to go completely solo as germany, without italy and hungary in faction, there are better options. then i would declare war on albania, which is guaranteed by italy. this would give more factories, but will give you more harbours to garrison.
puppeting them is a better option with italy, as it give me the benefits of their navy fighting uk navy, which means that i actually get less factories. (unless i only give them sardinia).

[glythe]

Originally posted by Supreme leader Aladeen:

As Germany it's counter-productive to attack countries which are given to you freely through your focus tree. You can easily annex France and take all their navy, then invade Great Britain and even dissolve the Allies.

How many factories do you end up with in 1938? If you use the Super Germany strat (see Feedback gaming) you can end up with all of: Pol, CZE, ROM, YUG, HUN, and Greece before WWII starts. This method nets you with a lot of early experience, over 150 factories and pretty much all of Eastern Europe. You have about 1.5-2 years to build up before you attack either the soviets or the allies.

Basically you do a triple war to start with czech, romania and poland. You can get those in mid 37 depending on how good you are at conducting your war. You will get Yug through focus tree and you have options for Hungary depending on what is going on.

1. Annex via puppet focus.
2. Declare war via wargoal if they joined Japan's faction (Japan lets them die/allies dont care)


You wil give land to Hungary that you will get back when you puppet/annex them. The small amount of land you give to Italy will actually help them quite a bit as there is not really room for them to grow (since you took everything else). Or you can kill them too.

Sometimes you can fabricate on Hungary and the Allies don't care as long as they have flipped from being a neutral nation (can do this with popularity boost or focus).

Sometimes you can get Greece as a puppet. When you finish all this you can do the fate of greece early/mid 1939 depending on world tension.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by glythe:

Originally posted by Supreme leader Aladeen:

As Germany it's counter-productive to attack countries which are given to you freely through your focus tree. You can easily annex France and take all their navy, then invade Great Britain and even dissolve the Allies.

How many factories do you end up with in 1938? If you use the Super Germany strat (see Feedback gaming) you can end up with all of: Pol, CZE, ROM, YUG, HUN, and Greece before WWII starts. This method nets you with a lot of early experience, over 150 factories and pretty much all of Eastern Europe. You have about 1.5-2 years to build up before you attack either the soviets or the allies.

Basically you do a triple war to start with czech, romania and poland. You can get those in mid 37 depending on how good you are at conducting your war. You will get Yug through focus tree and you have options for Hungary depending on what is going on.

1. Annex via puppet focus.
2. Declare war via wargoal if they joined Japan's faction (Japan lets them die/allies dont care)


You wil give land to Hungary that you will get back when you puppet/annex them. The small amount of land you give to Italy will actually help them quite a bit as there is not really room for them to grow (since you took everything else). Or you can kill them too.

Sometimes you can fabricate on Hungary and the Allies don't care as long as they have flipped from being a neutral nation (can do this with popularity boost or focus).

Sometimes you can get Greece as a puppet. When you finish all this you can do the fate of greece early/mid 1939 depending on world tension.

Sure it's another good way to expland as Germany and I've used to do that in all of my German playthroughs. But if you go through that route you lose your chance to not only get France out of the Allies by annexing and taking all their fleet with little issues, especially if you're playing as fascist Germany which allows you to puppet and annex France for 50 pp, but also lose your chance to use that fleet to capitulate and annex the entire Allies faction.

After that it's easy to conquer the entire world if you wish because you effectively have removed Germany's only weakness which is the sea routes. From there you can use Canada to launch an invasion to the U.S. and you can also invade the USSR and Japan.