How do you use Land forts and Seaforts?

[mp81996]

When It says to build a land fort I imagine pillboxes and machine gun bunkers as big as ones used in defense against the Americans in the D-day landings of Omaha Beach

To my knowledge getting past fortifications like these are impossible unless you have bombers to destroy them. France's Maginot line next hard to push through unless you set up a suicide wave to distract divisions protecting the Maginot and have to go around it by invading Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands and enter the open fields where tanks can zoom to the capital and capitulate paris.

Now For me, I want to build a Line of Fortifications that stretches all across the Polish-Soviet Border I would like to see if 10/10 fortifications on all provinces between the Polish-Soviet border can withhold a Soviet human wave for a certain amount of time until its my turn to push forward.

But the question is, how do you use them? through the Garrison order or frontline order

[Dazven]

Originally posted by mp81996:

When It says to build a land fort I imagine pillboxes and machine gun bunkers as big as ones used in defense against the Americans in the D-day landings of Omaha Beach

To my knowledge getting past fortifications like these are impossible unless you have bombers to destroy them. France's Maginot line next hard to push through unless you set up a suicide wave to distract divisions protecting the Maginot and have to go around it by invading Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands and enter the open fields where tanks can zoom to the capital and capitulate paris.

Now For me, I want to build a Line of Fortifications that stretches all across the Polish-Soviet Border I would like to see if 10/10 fortifications on all provinces between the Polish-Soviet border can withhold a Soviet human wave for a certain amount of time until its my turn to push forward.

But the question is, how do you use them? through the Garrison order or frontline order

I did the exact situation you did awhile back. What I did was use the frontline order after creating a line of them.

I won't give you exact details, but you will win lol. Fortifications will take down any AI. I took down Germany as the Czechs just by having them throw everything against my forts.

Garrison will also work just fine, but I prefer the frontline. It is always good to have a fallback line as well to some secondary forts, but I never had to use it playing as the Polish.

Edit: For sea forts you definitely only want to use garrison, can't really use anything else there.

[mp81996]

Originally posted by Lt. Commander Data (Daz):

Originally posted by mp81996:

When It says to build a land fort I imagine pillboxes and machine gun bunkers as big as ones used in defense against the Americans in the D-day landings of Omaha Beach

To my knowledge getting past fortifications like these are impossible unless you have bombers to destroy them. France's Maginot line next hard to push through unless you set up a suicide wave to distract divisions protecting the Maginot and have to go around it by invading Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands and enter the open fields where tanks can zoom to the capital and capitulate paris.

Now For me, I want to build a Line of Fortifications that stretches all across the Polish-Soviet Border I would like to see if 10/10 fortifications on all provinces between the Polish-Soviet border can withhold a Soviet human wave for a certain amount of time until its my turn to push forward.

But the question is, how do you use them? through the Garrison order or frontline order

I did the exact situation you did awhile back. What I did was use the frontline order after creating a line of them.

I won't give you exact details, but you will win lol. Fortifications will take down any AI. I took down Germany as the Czechs just by having them throw everything against my forts.

Garrison will also work just fine, but I prefer the frontline. It is always good to have a fallback line as well to some secondary forts, but I never had to use it playing as the Polish.

And thats the one thing that throws me off, which order is it? Garrison or Frontline, Frontline sends all your selected divisions to the line as for Garrisoning and area selects a handful of divisions. If frontline lets me use all my forts, I'll do that, But if Garrison does that then Garrison it will be.

[Dazven]

Originally posted by mp81996:

Originally posted by Lt. Commander Data (Daz):

I did the exact situation you did awhile back. What I did was use the frontline order after creating a line of them.

I won't give you exact details, but you will win lol. Fortifications will take down any AI. I took down Germany as the Czechs just by having them throw everything against my forts.

Garrison will also work just fine, but I prefer the frontline. It is always good to have a fallback line as well to some secondary forts, but I never had to use it playing as the Polish.

And thats the one thing that throws me off, which order is it? Garrison or Frontline, Frontline sends all your selected divisions to the line as for Garrisoning and area selects a handful of divisions. If frontline lets me use all my forts, I'll do that, But if Garrison does that then Garrison it will be.

Garrison will as long as you set them to garrison only land forts (In the tooltip). I haven't really tested that too much, but it should work just fine as long as you have the number of divisions needed (Of couse you may want to go higher for ideal protection). I think I had about 30-40 divisions during that playthrough (Maybe less), but it has been awhile.

[Dazven]

The problem I will say though is you won't get a planning bonus by doing that. One of the reasons why I used the frontline is to get a planning bonus and have my offensive already in place for when I launched it.

[Ваня]

Forts "inflict am attack penalty of -15% for each fort level on the attacker in combat." The penalty is only applied to combat in the province where the fort is built. The order you use doesn't really matter. You could even give the army no orders.

So long as your divisions are in the same province as your forts it will work; garrison area set to guard forts, fallback line drawn across your forts, or front line so long as your forts are also on the border. All will work.

[mp81996]

Originally posted by Lt. Commander Data (Daz):

The problem I will say though is you won't get a planning bonus by doing that. One of the reasons why I used the frontline is to get a planning bonus and have my offensive already in place for when I launched it.

Does your General/Field Marshall still rank up on Garrison orders? like I perfer Gerd Von Rundstedt because he has no limit for divisions and has both an offensive and defensive doctrine which is good for early start

[Dazven]

Originally posted by mp81996:

Originally posted by Lt. Commander Data (Daz):

The problem I will say though is you won't get a planning bonus by doing that. One of the reasons why I used the frontline is to get a planning bonus and have my offensive already in place for when I launched it.

Does your General/Field Marshall still rank up on Garrison orders? like I perfer Gerd Von Rundstedt because he has no limit for divisions and has both an offensive and defensive doctrine which is good for early start

Should just fine, long as the divisions are under his control.

[Ваня]

Commanders gain experience when the units under their command engage in combat[www.hoi4wiki.com]

[Ryan]

You don't need Frontline or Garrison orders for Forts to work. Any unit parked in a province with a fort with no orders will benefit from the Fort when it is attacked.

[qwert]

if a division is on the province the fort or naval fort is then it gets the -15% bonus attack the enemey gets