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Hidden Achievement
After trying endless times, I didn't manage to survive as neutral poland to get the hidden achievement. It has become more difficult since the Together for Victory expansion. Any tips?
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If I was aiming for that achievement I'd try declaring war on the USSR as soon as possible. Don't bother building tanks or an airforce , just focus on making your infantry as buff as possible. Take the Polish Revanchism National Focus and start justifying the war goal against the USSR as soon as you can. It might be hard at first but as you build up more and more troops the USSR will start crumbling. I managed to defeat the soviets this way , which gained me tons of factories. (Remember to give up Danzig , you don't want the Germans rolling through Warsaw while you're still at war with the USSR). Then its off to declaring war on Iran and the Axis. By now they should probably be having a hard time dealing with constant allied naval invasions.
danielschmid3 Mar 21, 2017 @ 1:40am 
I tried but it didnt work as the soviets naval invade danzig far too fast and conquer me without me being able to spare divisions to defend the coast.
capycapy Mar 21, 2017 @ 2:48am 
Originally posted by danielschmid3:
I tried but it didnt work as the soviets naval invade danzig far too fast and conquer me without me being able to spare divisions to defend the coast.
You just give danzig to Germany when the ultimatum comes.
danielschmid3 Mar 21, 2017 @ 2:58am 
meaning that i can only declare war to the soviets after i ceded danzig?
capycapy Mar 21, 2017 @ 3:35am 
Originally posted by danielschmid3:
meaning that i can only declare war to the soviets after i ceded danzig?
Well I invaded Czhecoslovakia for more factories and waited out focusing only on my army. First of all SU demanded Eastern Poland and ofc I rejected it and I was in a 1v1 vs SU. A few months later Germany asked for Danzig and I kindly gave it to them. When I finished off SU, I took over all Germany and Italy. It was a while ago, have a screenshot like this. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=741956262 I had only army with artillery, no planes, no ships, no tanks whatsoever.
Last edited by capycapy; Mar 21, 2017 @ 3:37am
[RDHK] Travis Mar 21, 2017 @ 6:51am 
oh boy bearer of Artillery, well I just got this achievment last week so here's what I can tell you.

Short version: Build forts everywhere, spam infantry divisions, join axis


Long Version:

1. invade Czhecoslovakia, however dont take the sudaten land as germany will then declare war on you. If anything only take slovakia where there is iron and tugnsten and leave Czheco to their fate.

2. land doctine grand battle plan. Now when I played it I went down infiltration and I recommend the same, I find going down assault isn't worth it. Another doctrine you can go down is mass assault followed by the mass mobilaztion branch for recovery rate and 5% recruitable population.

3. Factions, now you have three choices the allies, axis, or your own faction. I would recommend your own faction or the axis. If you go your own faction go all the way down the focus tree to get as many allies as possible.

4. Build forts. with the new build syestem for forts you can't max out that fast anymore, instead build 3 to 5 forts on the border with the USSR. then build more forts behind these one's not 3 to 5 just 1 to 2.

5. give danzig to germany. you can't stand up to them yet. you need your troops else where.

6. WAR!! Soviet Union will declare wa on you after 1940. DON'T declare war on the soviets, it's really hard even impossible to take them out before 1940.

7. Division design
don't go all out. what you need is your standard layout the division template gives you. and add engineer company, recon company and artillery support.

This is why I say you can possibley go mass mobilization

try and get 50 divisions.

8. Factions 2.0

if you went your own faction you will lose them in the war. so slowly fall back out of their country as to not let the soviets steam roll you . I recommend 10 divisitions in latvia, lithuania, and estonia. once they start geting beat, slowly fall back. once you lose them the axis will have a land route into the soviet union and they will declare war.

if you go with the axis just call them to war. GG
Me persoanlly I went with the polish faction.

9. late game as the soviets continue to attack you and see how high they can make the corpse pile. By 1942 try and have 120 divisions, and add radio comapny and hostpital to your template.

10. The Push

This is the hardest part eventually you'll overcome the soviets and it will turn into a slow push to moscow. During this time declare war on iran so they will join the commitern.

11. Luck

when you finally defeat the soviets, and take iran. you now have to go to war against the axis. I would recommend that you simply parachute into central italy. However if by this time the allies have landed in france and are starting to kick the axis butt, fight with them and fight your way toward italy.


Finally thought:

Build a few civilain factories in 1936 maybe 4 or 6. After that build military factories until late 1938. Then build the forts. If you can build Anti Air defenses.

Don't try and get a navy.

Your airfoce will be destyoed, by 1941 try and start rebuild it.
danielschmid3 Mar 21, 2017 @ 9:06am 
sounds good... however i thought that this achievement is only possible if you are non-alligned as poland
capycapy Mar 21, 2017 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by danielschmid3:
sounds good... however i thought that this achievement is only possible if you are non-alligned as poland
This achievement is only possible if you are non-alligned. You can't join the axis or make the alliance with Baltics. You have to beat SU 1v1 and then the axis without joining any factions.
Last edited by capycapy; Mar 21, 2017 @ 9:40am
[RDHK] Travis Mar 21, 2017 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by danielschmid3:
sounds good... however i thought that this achievement is only possible if you are non-alligned as poland


Wrong, I formed the polish faction and still got the achivment. And if you look at the requirements for the achivment you just can't be alligned with the soviets.
George W. Bush Mar 21, 2017 @ 3:13pm 
The trick is for beating the Germans is having lots of anti-tank weapons becuase Germans love those panzers XD
Originally posted by zombie55513:
The trick is for beating the Germans is having lots of anti-tank weapons becuase Germans love those panzers XD
Going to war with Germany first probably isnt a good idea , unless you plan to reduce Italy's size without completely annexing them. Remember , you need to be at war with Italy and Italy usually joins Germany when someone is at war with the axis.
Dave Mar 21, 2017 @ 5:27pm 
a bit of a problem with paradox games is that at one point some of the older achievments get really hard (not so much CK2 but EU4) but the advise here given is good. I did it before TfV, but it should still be possible now.
Well I have the bear as a general but it hasn't given me the achievement. I started in 1936 on ironman. Will I just have to restart and do it again?
You can get any achievements using the version of the game it was released on. Meaning you don't have to use together for victory at all if it made it hard for you.
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