How the hell do you invade Britain?

[4 Sale 2]

So whenever I try to invade Britain a few things happen.

1. The f*cks get sunk.
2. My attack gets repelled, and they have to go back to harbor.
3. I land and then I get buttf*cked because even though I won a battle I can't move since some other division is attacking, Win that battle, rinse and repeat till dead because you run out of organization.

It's the most difficult part of this game.

[Angelis Mortis]

You have to control the sea zones with naval and air superiority. Massive air superiority because the KM will not be as good as the RN and wil definitely not be as good as the USN. Massive air superiority with large amount of naval bombers over the channel and north sea. Allow for attrition of naval forces until you feel you have sunk a serious portion of their capital ships then go for it. Take a zone near a port with overwhelming force then immdiately move by land to take the adjacent port to ensure supply. From there it's only a matter of time.

[Viksteri]

Originally posted by Angelus Mortis:

You have to control the sea zones with naval and air superiority. Massive air superiority because the KM will not be as good as the RN and wil definitely not be as good as the USN. Massive air superiority with large amount of naval bombers over the channel and north sea. Allow for attrition of naval forces until you feel you have sunk a serious portion of their capital ships then go for it. Take a zone near a port with overwhelming force then immdiately move by land to take the adjacent port to ensure supply. From there it's only a matter of time.

What about nukes? In my royalist france campaign I cant stand that the allues get credit when I fought the bloody germnas right when the chezs were under attack

[Tama]

Generally, this route worked for me:
Build:
1. Build only military/naval favtories. You will get civ factories via focuses and conquer.
2. Spam basic infantry to raise army size for focuses. Deploy them before time to raise manpower fast
3. Focuses: first some industry boost, but main priority is to get territorial expansion as soob as you have the manpower
4. Build one fleet with appr. the following composition: 3-4 lvl2 carrier, 2-3 bb, 2-3 bc, 4-5 hc, 4-6 lc, 25+ destroyer.

By mid 38, you should have 150+ divs. One offense army with 20+ tank/mech divisions, a second at least half completed. You can start conquering.

Conquest:
1. Right in start, as soon as you have the political power, start declaring against the netherlands. Attack when finished. You crack them in a week. Since the colonies are now puppets, on the peace conference first puppet them, and then annex the homeland. This gives you oil and rubber to build up your navy and army. It is important to do it asap, or france or gb will guarantee them and you're scr*wed...
Here i prefer boosting fascist party poularity in the US. Later they won't interwene in the war.
2. Mid 38: attack poland. You can beat them in a few weeks or month.
2.1. Naval warfare. First secure the baltics. When you feel the french/brit pressure dropping, go to the next sea area below norway. You wil beat their fleets one by one. If the pressure grows, fall back to the baltics.
3. Around maginot: go through luxemburg and belgium and then france. This part is the toughest, as french and brits can also spam troops here. Needs a lot of micro managing here to crack their lines.
I usually pushed onne side and then move to the other. This is to make them redeploy continously. Once you find a weakspot, start pushing there. Push continously, don't let them replenish. When their lines are broken, puff, french has fallen.
4. Now you can focus on GB. Until that point, i haven't used air units. From now on, start aquiring air superiority in the channel. Deploy also naval bombers from land, if you could make some. Start planning naval invasion on the northest port of the channel sea area in the british island. Start deploying your fleet here. First search and destroy, when invasion planning complete, switch to escort. Make the invasion. I allways found that by 40, brits have spread their fleets around the globe. Also true for land units. The important thing is that they dont have much units when the war brakes out. You have to do it as soon as possible or they build up a big army. When you have landed, bring one offensive army with 20+ units and a few inf divs to hold the line. Gb usually have around 10-15 divisions inthe homeland, u can beat them with your army here.
5. Attack on soviets. After you have knocked out france and gb, the allies are practically over. You have plenty of resources and capacity to build army against the soviets. In 41 you can have 3 offensive army and 200+ inf to hold the line. You will have to be patient, you have to make them consume their supplies. It can take a few month. When attrition eat their strength, you can start pushing.

After you beat the SU, you are invincible. Help out the japanese, and conquer the rest of the world.

[Caelus]

i found it easy..... but then again it was a bit later into war and most of britains armies were constanalty busy harrasing italy and north africa ad they took many losses doing that, and ofcourse during the course of the war it probably worn out their naval forces bit by bit as i always had lots of subs doing convo raiding (probably killed lots of their troops doing that) and had my planes doing naval strikes. and japan was totally beasting everyone for me, maybe japan kicked british navys butt for me? but yea i pretty much landed naval assualts on all the majour ports in britain...... i managed to take north england and scotland easiest, london naval assault faild, but that didnt matter as i followed up naval landing by moving troops in by standard ovement seeing as the ports in scotland were mine. pretty easy once ou get foothold really because britain doesnt actually defend its island very well... you will find its defended by like 3 to 4 units lol

[Kermit]

If you're looking for a non-historical way to take the country, just prep 2 5 man naval invasions in seperate areas along a 3 province coast line near ports (Need to take for supplies, they'll get through even without naval superiority) Don't put a single ship in the ocean until the invasions are ready, and then send the entire naval stack on convoy escort (less engagement chance) then deploy the invasions. Throw the rest of your men over to the ports you've taken, and make as wide of a front as humanly possible as fast as you can to minimalize supply issues, and to beat the fact that Britain has very few men in the homeland at all times.

You have a better chance taking Britain in 1937 than 1940, but some people love the immersion of the game- 9 times out of 10 when I play it's basically a rush for factories to out preform the people on multiplayer i'm with.

[󠀡󠀡MɨxɇđǤȺmɨnǥ]

there are so many ways to do it the best one that work for me is invade norway so you fon't have to waste time building so many ships then from the top of norway set up a nav invasion to scotland then wala your in the UK then all you need to do is send is your doom stack tanks and eat the whole of the UK and if your fighting a player they norm forget to guard scotland and id they do guard it it will be very weak so make sure you have good invasions units that can hold the fight until you kill all the UK org simps and enjoy............ this game is rely piss easy and fighting players are easy if you know what your doing leran the div temps and learn the nation you want to play the most to make the best outcome to take land for free without any guras going off like germany talking poland for free and then cheks for free also destroying france easy is from the north....

[p2]

pretty easy, you either send some naval invasions, or parachute (shouldnt be too hard to get air supiriority for enough time) then just send like 30 divions, they usually only have like 5-10 divisions on the mainland

[Wayward Son]

Originally posted by masatar ceef XSIVe:

So whenever I try to invade Britain a few things happen.

1. The f*cks get sunk.
2. My attack gets repelled, and they have to go back to harbor.
3. I land and then I get buttf*cked because even though I won a battle I can't move since some other division is attacking, Win that battle, rinse and repeat till dead because you run out of organization.

It's the most difficult part of this game.

Who are you playing as? What is your overall operational strategy for the campaign?

1. They wouldn't get sunk if you had a decent fleet set to convoy escort. Naval invasions use convoys, so setting a few CA/CL fleets to CE will typically solve the issue.
2. Are you using Marine Divisions to create the beachhead? Are you landing at multiple points along the coast? Lead with Marines and when you have a secure beachhead, send in your regular infantry.
3. Reinforce the Marines as rapidly as possible with your army and make sure you have a decent naval base with which to throughput supplies.

I know the AI is a smidge better these days but this op is actually rather easy to accomplish more often than not. Hit the UK square in the midriff by landing on both sides of Hull and at Hull itself, then race across to Liverpool and cut the country in half. Use the Humber and Ouse to provide some protection for your forces but don't piss about- get motorised forces to swing around the rivers and punch through and focus on taking southern VPs quickly

If you really don't want the challenge, you may prefer to initiate a coup and then assist the opposition. This is very easy, since you can transport units much more straightforwardly instead of having to perform nav ops.

[4 Sale 2]

What I usually do is get 10 regular divisions (10 mountaineers, 2 arty, 1 AA, 2 AT, 1 light tank, and if I have it 3 rocket artillery. With these 10 divisions I make my boats escort my convoys so they can invade East UK, they rarely sink, but it happens. When I egt there I immediately get swarmed by all sides. If I ever get to attack I always win, but then they attack me so I can't advance. Rinse and repeat till dead because of organizations lol.

[Wayward Son]

Originally posted by masatar ceef XSIVe:

What I usually do is get 10 regular divisions (10 mountaineers, 2 arty, 1 AA, 2 AT, 1 light tank, and if I have it 3 rocket artillery. With these 10 divisions I make my boats escort my convoys so they can invade East UK, they rarely sink, but it happens. When I egt there I immediately get swarmed by all sides. If I ever get to attack I always win, but then they attack me so I can't advance. Rinse and repeat till dead because of organizations lol.

Interesting. Well, there's your problem right there; using Mountaineers instead of Marines. You want the latter to establish an initial beachhead, follow up with regular infantry to perform the breakthrough, and then motorised infantry to storm VPs. Use Mountain divisions for combat in Scotland and Northern England.

Composition of your forces should ideally be 7x MAR/2x ART, 7x INF/2x ART and 3-6x MOT/3x M-ARM/3x M-SPG. You can expand them for better fighting power, for instance I like to put an extra art in my infantry divisions sometimes, for a bit more soft attack. That motorised combo is OP af, gives you massive SA, breakthrough and defence.

Try it all again and let us know how it goes.

[Chasp]

Paratroopers m8

[Odina]

Originally posted by Tama:

Generally, this route worked for me:
Build:
1. Build only military/naval favtories. You will get civ factories via focuses and conquer.
2. Spam basic infantry to raise army size for focuses. Deploy them before time to raise manpower fast
3. Focuses: first some industry boost, but main priority is to get territorial expansion as soob as you have the manpower
4. Build one fleet with appr. the following composition: 3-4 lvl2 carrier, 2-3 bb, 2-3 bc, 4-5 hc, 4-6 lc, 25+ destroyer.

By mid 38, you should have 150+ divs. One offense army with 20+ tank/mech divisions, a second at least half completed. You can start conquering.

Conquest:
1. Right in start, as soon as you have the political power, start declaring against the netherlands. Attack when finished. You crack them in a week. Since the colonies are now puppets, on the peace conference first puppet them, and then annex the homeland. This gives you oil and rubber to build up your navy and army. It is important to do it asap, or france or gb will guarantee them and you're scr*wed...
Here i prefer boosting fascist party poularity in the US. Later they won't interwene in the war.
2. Mid 38: attack poland. You can beat them in a few weeks or month.
2.1. Naval warfare. First secure the baltics. When you feel the french/brit pressure dropping, go to the next sea area below norway. You wil beat their fleets one by one. If the pressure grows, fall back to the baltics.
3. Around maginot: go through luxemburg and belgium and then france. This part is the toughest, as french and brits can also spam troops here. Needs a lot of micro managing here to crack their lines.
I usually pushed onne side and then move to the other. This is to make them redeploy continously. Once you find a weakspot, start pushing there. Push continously, don't let them replenish. When their lines are broken, puff, french has fallen.
4. Now you can focus on GB. Until that point, i haven't used air units. From now on, start aquiring air superiority in the channel. Deploy also naval bombers from land, if you could make some. Start planning naval invasion on the northest port of the channel sea area in the british island. Start deploying your fleet here. First search and destroy, when invasion planning complete, switch to escort. Make the invasion. I allways found that by 40, brits have spread their fleets around the globe. Also true for land units. The important thing is that they dont have much units when the war brakes out. You have to do it as soon as possible or they build up a big army. When you have landed, bring one offensive army with 20+ units and a few inf divs to hold the line. Gb usually have around 10-15 divisions inthe homeland, u can beat them with your army here.
5. Attack on soviets. After you have knocked out france and gb, the allies are practically over. You have plenty of resources and capacity to build army against the soviets. In 41 you can have 3 offensive army and 200+ inf to hold the line. You will have to be patient, you have to make them consume their supplies. It can take a few month. When attrition eat their strength, you can start pushing.

After you beat the SU, you are invincible. Help out the japanese, and conquer the rest of the world.

Nice Report! I havent done this variant before. Ive somehow always befriended the dutch. Making them joining my cause. But! I do love a great US Ciwil war times again and again starting in Texas ^^ They rock pretty hard if u supply them to. :) Ask for M-Access. Land troops, and voila, u have taken over a unprepeared and chaotic USA. :)

[BlackSmoke 🏴‍☠]

Well, by mid 38' playing as Germany you can have EEUU annexed too, not only UK, France, Poland, Netherland and Belgium.
In this example, this is Nationalist Spain. Can be done, don't despair.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=855996016
And of course my fleet included zero carriers, battleships or heavy cruisers.
As a tip, in 1936, as soon as possible (by february or march) start justifying on Ireland, then declare war, invade and annex. You will have an easier access to UK.

[Karl]

Originally posted by masatar ceef XSIVe:

So whenever I try to invade Britain a few things happen.

1. The f*cks get sunk.
2. My attack gets repelled, and they have to go back to harbor.
3. I land and then I get buttf*cked because even though I won a battle I can't move since some other division is attacking, Win that battle, rinse and repeat till dead because you run out of organization.

It's the most difficult part of this game.

Make 10 Marine divisions, have them land at Dover, make sure your entire airforce and navy is on the channel, after the marines land send your armies in, get Operation Sealion achievement.

[BlackSmoke 🏴‍☠]

Not as easy.