X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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2023年6月14日 5時23分
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Geist の投稿を引用:
Azradun の投稿を引用:

My friend stopped playing the game exactly due to it overheating her computer despite

Check the CPU cooling.

This.
I find when I play this game, most often the framerate is limited by the CPU, not the GPU.. up to three CPU threads fully maxed out while the GPU is ticking along at 70% or so.. I find my GPU runs cooler on this game that a lot of others, because the choke point is (understandably) the intensive CPU work being done in the background so it doesnt sit maxed out at 100% for long periods of time. If your friend is just on a stock CPU cooler, potentially that is causing the temp issues, not graphics settings.
Geist の投稿を引用:
Saintanik の投稿を引用:
In this case you need to think about more effcient cooling.

We played a lot of CPU and GPU-heavy games together and in parallel over a long time. Some of them gave my machine high temperatures (here I get a comfortable experience so far). While I play in 1920p, she plays in 4k by default. The problem of "computer shut down due to critical overheating" happened exactly once, and only in the case of this game. The temperature remained so high that she abandoned playing the game. She is more of an expert on cooling as I am.

If she can play a game smoothly in 4k that I can't, and don't fry her PC, then yes. It is a case of bad optimization with X4.
Question is, what is the top priority of Egosoft? It definitely does not seem to be bug fixes, QOL... more ways to reach into pockets and extort money for half baked products, at least that is my guess. Reading through this post is hilarious, it seems more like mobile crap, demanding of my time just to participate in the stupid multiverse. This idea needs to go back to it's own dimension and never be brought up again. Exhausted players through testing, great idea drown players in tedium and most likely boredom of being controlled by a game to use a "feature". LOL.
Konaan 2023年6月25日 17時07分 
It is easy to say that when you see all the comments about the Ventures they beta tested. How about going back and looking at all of the patch notes from previous fixes that went out. There are TONS of bug fixes in those lists. What I am guessing is they haven't fixed the ones that YOU want. Maybe there is a reason. Maybe they haven't narrowed down to what is causing those bugs. Maybe there is a limitation that will require a lot of re-coding or even expertise they don't have yet. There is a multitude of reasons on why some bugs haven't been fixed yet.

Give them the benefit of the doubt and enjoy the game....or not and find something else. The game is still great despite some of the complaints that keep getting posted and re-posted every update. I even thought the Ventures were nice...albeit a little long and light on the rewards at the end. I do feel the first iteration of Ventures was better from a rewards standpoint, but the ability to run them from anywhere was the selling point for me on the second attempt. Now if they could only combine the two.
yeah, polish that turd
meh, didnt touch it once. Not worth playing unmodded
Kiriesani の投稿を引用:

So yeah. Stop trying to make X4 something it's not. Rant over.

thats exactly what the devs are trying to do with this "online" component
Chilltex 2023年6月26日 5時40分 
Konaan の投稿を引用:
It is easy to say that when you see all the comments about the Ventures they beta tested. How about going back and looking at all of the patch notes from previous fixes that went out. There are TONS of bug fixes in those lists. What I am guessing is they haven't fixed the ones that YOU want. Maybe there is a reason. Maybe they haven't narrowed down to what is causing those bugs. Maybe there is a limitation that will require a lot of re-coding or even expertise they don't have yet. There is a multitude of reasons on why some bugs haven't been fixed yet.

Give them the benefit of the doubt and enjoy the game....or not and find something else. The game is still great despite some of the complaints that keep getting posted and re-posted every update. I even thought the Ventures were nice...albeit a little long and light on the rewards at the end. I do feel the first iteration of Ventures was better from a rewards standpoint, but the ability to run them from anywhere was the selling point for me on the second attempt. Now if they could only combine the two.

If you go back far enough in patch notes you can see some bugs repeating themselves. Some of us have been waiting for years for them to fix some AI path finding, still waiting... At a certain point that "goodwill" that "benefit of the doubt" goes away. Just as a player I went away, just check back periodically to see if anything has improved, which it seems not to have.

And I am now at the conclusion the reason being for so many bugs, is lack of management of the project. They piecemeal put it together, instead of having an overall structure laid out for the entire scope of what X4 was aiming to become. It is very visible in the story/plot arc's they do not mesh well at all. Physics engine re-write only meant they didn't code it properly from the beginning, then on to seeing the same bugs pop up that were in the game near release. Silly nerfs to economy models to slow down player progression all the while fighting bugs, and weird UI/UX choices, very weird implementation of pilot skill and orders they can actually do.. There are many things I would like them to address, and many others.

While you are more than welcome to your opinion and give them the "benefit of the doubt", you will not change many minds with offering explanations such as "they do not have the expertise yet". If they do not have the skill to fix the game they made, X4 is in a lot more trouble than one would think. As far as limitations go, if they did not have a target for a set of hardware specs, that is poor management. If they coded the game so poorly they had to re-write entire physics engine for example.. Says a lot about lack of planning on the project. Then not even have the foresight fix bugs that also existed in the previous physics engine.

Yeah, seems like Egosoft bit off more than it could chew with this one..
Fix the mouse cursor on high dpi screens please. No money for DLC from me until this easy task is done since not being able to see the mouse on my 4k screen makes in unplayable.
chris23162 2023年7月22日 10時01分 
No one asked for this and almost no one want's it, we want bug fixes, quality of life improvement's and a better game not some stupid and worthless tacked on online feature which didn't even work for years. Make everything the ventures give you obtainable without using ventures and thus make ventures a OPTIONAL way to gain said things for people while they are either not playing or are doing other things.

Putting paint job's behind a system like this just screams of "We know our game is trash but we need to force people to grind and thus play it longer". So I can't just go to a shipyard and get a paint job for my ship I have to log on play this boring venture thing and hope I get what I want and then do it another 1000 times plus so all my ships can have the same paint job.

When even in our technologically backwards modern age we have places to you know get our vehicles painted in whatever colours we want. The game IS GOING TO DIE if this is where your putting your efforts and making it so people need to choose between achievements and ventures or mods is frankly amoeba levels of thinking. Mods are the very lifeblood of modern games and what have kept even decade old games selling well, skyrim without mods would have been remembered as a buggy but ok game.

Instead it's still selling well to this day and I know people that own it on 3 or more systems because mods fixed all of the issues the dev's couldn't or couldn't be bothered too and added a ton of FREE CONTENT. Same goes for fallout 3, new Vegas and 4. Hell the only reason I bought hearts of iron 4 was to play the old world blues mod. You have had from 1999 till today an almost uncontested stranglehold on the open world, spaceship, sandbox game ......................... but that is about to change sure there was star citizen but that costs a ton just to start and they wipe the servers constantly.

I'm talking about starfield it will have everything this game has and more and the people that play this will move over to it and leave this behind I have over 400 hours in this game almost all of that time was spent building one mega station, sure I have others and thousands of ships. What I mean is this station has been in construction for over 400 hours with about 100 hours left before I can add the final production units so probably another 150 to 200 hours to finish and there is nothing for me to do in that time.

Which is why I stopped playing sure the boron came out but much like how I was hyped for Outer Worlds it came out after I had already lost interest and isn't compelling enough to make me come back. Just like how the epic exclusivity deal killed any chance they had of getting me to buy the Outer Worlds the lack of meaningful content and a poorly build economy system has killed my desire to play this game.

Sure there as story missions but doing them will actually lead to the economy shutting down and the game basically dying. When your entire economy is based on ship production and finishing the story missions will upset the balance and eventually lead to zero demand for ships and thus zero demand for anything and the only way to prevent this is to not play the story missions and to keep the perpetual war ie the status quo you know the entire game was poorly planned, designed and implemented.

Mods can and have FIXED THESE ISSUES but instead of being happy about it supporting and encouraging modders you have instead told them they are the enemy and anyone that uses mods will be punished. I may one day play this again just for the lol's and to look back at a game that had such potential but was developed by a shortsighted team that failed to see the issues right in front of them.

Drop the online trash, remove the modified save garbage and embrace the mods. Without them your game is a boring, broken grind fest. That now has a limited shelf life, only time will tell if you can see your mistakes and fix them before the inevitable decline sets in. People only have so much time to spare and so the game that offers players more of what they want will take players from games that punish players for daring to want more.
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