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New Fly Model Opinion! Who are this guys lisening to >?
I don't know who are the Betta Testers for the new fly model, but are you guys insane?
Who are the Developers Lissening to?
New Fly model feels and looks like crap, specialy controls feels like your ship is only on ICE thats it! Hows that so special >?
Battle don't feel the same anymore Because controling your ship makes the experience HARD TO CONTROL. And is not Accurate and this are not real time simulations by any chance. Is like frlying true ICE CIMENT, NOT SPACE!
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DaddyLycan Jan 15 @ 11:37pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96wwMBk4J2k&ab_channel=CaptainSnuggles

And yea me opinion is based on this, But i hope they keep or Introduce a Button in menu settings, to keep the old fly model on. Or to be able to play in a version where the fly model is like it was till now.
Last edited by DaddyLycan; Jan 15 @ 11:38pm
PeaceMaker Jan 16 @ 12:06am 
Well they based on a guy who knows his stuff about space and how it works. I like it. And if it's closer to how it would feel in space I like it even more.
The previous flight model acted like the ships were on rails. The new model takes a little getting used to but now at least it feels like they have mass and momentum.
Geist Jan 16 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by LycanthropeX:
And yea me opinion is based on this,
How about testing it yourself instead
Easy Target Jan 16 @ 2:02am 
The old model was crap - just so bad.
Updating the flight model can only bring it into line with what the rest of the game has to offer.
And it will mean different ships will now be far more important. As it is now just need fastest S-M ship and ignore handling - just turn off FA turn and re-enable FA - total BS - car physics in space is just a joke.
Will mean ships will now feel different in more ways - this can only be a outstanding thing !.

Arcade flight model has had it's day - finally moving towards a model that the X universe finally deserves.
Stroller Jan 16 @ 2:03am 
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Originally posted by Geist:
Originally posted by LycanthropeX:
And yea me opinion is based on this,
How about testing it yourself instead

Are you insane? Why forming an opinion by playing/testing if you can watch a vid and copy/past the creators view of things? C'mon, don't be silly :steamfacepalm:
Daedroth Jan 16 @ 2:16am 
I did all timelines challenges to 5* with the new flight model and it felt way more natural.
So couldn´t be that bad if i could do it, you can too. Give it a try.
Originally posted by LycanthropeX:
I don't know who are the Betta Testers for the new fly model, but are you guys insane?
Who are the Developers Lissening to?
New Fly model feels and looks like crap, specialy controls feels like your ship is only on ICE thats it! Hows that so special >?
Battle don't feel the same anymore Because controling your ship makes the experience HARD TO CONTROL. And is not Accurate and this are not real time simulations by any chance. Is like frlying true ICE CIMENT, NOT SPACE!
Well i posted this so i can see if that guy is right and seems that he is not totaly right. The guy video seems to be miss leading to people or new players to the game. I just wanted to see what people feels about the new fly model in general. Don't judge me is not MISSLEADING POST is just REVEALING THE TRUE!
Thank You all.
Best Regards
Bazooka Jan 16 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by Stroller:
Originally posted by Geist:
How about testing it yourself instead

Are you insane? Why forming an opinion by playing/testing if you can watch a vid and copy/past the creators view of things? C'mon, don't be silly

I don't believe that Captain Snuggles guy.
He makes videos and then deletes them right after. Does he use mods maybe? Maybe not a reliable source? Only the egosoft website knows.

The dev is also testing the game, don't worry. but his feedback is good. :)
Last edited by Bazooka; Jan 16 @ 4:58am
Geist Jan 16 @ 7:43am 
Captain Snuggles is a good creator, and his testing and insights are also valuable contributions, especially while we are in beta.
But that doesn't mean he's always right. Remember he is just a guy playing and testing the game like you and me, he is just using his platform to draw the developers attention to things he thinks should be fixed, which is a good thing.

I watched the video yesterday and while I agree with a lot of his points, I still think it is a massive exaggeration to say that some ships feel like they are flying through wet cement.

But he is absolutely right in his conclusion that some areas need more balancing.

We should get as many players as possible to test things, so don't just watch a video and say "oh no that looks bad or wow that looks good", test it for yourself instead.
Back up your saves, install the beta, use the creative gamestart to give you some ships you want to toy around with and just give it a try for yourself.
Egosoft needs feedback on how you feel about the ships you fly in the way you play because we all play differently and feel differently about things.
Vali Jan 16 @ 7:47am 
Wierd, I really like the new flight model.

Only the AI behavior could be a bit better.
PeaceMaker Jan 16 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by Geist:
so don't just watch a video and say "oh no that looks bad or wow that looks good", test it for yourself instead.

It amazes me really.
It's one thing to watch someone's views on a video, but one of the biggest mistakes a person can do is then take that video content's words as gospel and go preaching it everywhere without actually knowing the truth of it, especially when it comes to a game you can check yourself. It's dumb.
ALWAYS go and check for yourself to find out if the info is correct and if you can't certainly don't go preaching it around as if it's fact. Even if you can't try it yourself you should listen to multiple sources on the subject, not just one. This stands for EVERYTHING, not just youtube, but even the mainstream lot, even on tv.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; Jan 16 @ 7:59am
Agonist Jan 16 @ 8:00am 
The new one is much better in my opinion. It feels like flying a spaceship now and less like driving a train.
senorduck Jan 16 @ 8:03am 
With a hotas it is night and day difference, each ship feels different and each has its own learning curve, personally I love it
Geist Jan 16 @ 8:16am 
I love that you can feel the mass of the ships now, whereas before those big ships just felt big, but not heavy. If you know what I mean.
Also, the M ships are no longer just bigger fighters, they fly and feel very different from the actual S-class fighters.
Before the changes, I personally wouldn't bother flying anything large, but the increased boost speeds, the changes to the travel drives, and the decoupling of boost and shields now make playing with L ships a valuable choice. So I actually fly around a lot in a Sapporo or fly my Colossus myself.
Last edited by Geist; Jan 16 @ 8:19am
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Date Posted: Jan 15 @ 11:27pm
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