SETA ?

[gizmo6023]

I have never used SETA before but from what I have read it sounds like you could leave it running for hours at a time. I get maybe 5 min and it turns off is this the new normal in beta2 or am I doing something wrong?

[Doom]

> sounds like you could leave it running for hours at a time.

Yes. However if you're attacked or contacted by a video call, it'll be interrupted. Especially if you're in a pilot seat. Haven't tested it in beta2.

[conrado.lacerda]

Anything that requires your attention will interrupt it: enemy attacks, subordinates contacting you etc. If you want to run it for a long time, it's best to be sitting on your chair in your office at the HQ and disable all instances where subordinates contact you.

[gizmo6023]

Thank you, I will disable the notifications I have and try using the office.

[chronobomb]

You need to finish all the Dal Busta and Bozo Ta quests because they will occasionally contact you to "remind you of the quest" which breaks SETA.

As a warning, SETA can completely break your game so make a back-up prior to using SETA.

[Lucius Confucius]

Originally posted by chronobomb:

As a warning, SETA can completely break your game so make a back-up prior to using SETA.

How can SETA break the game?

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Lucius Confucius:

How can SETA break the game?

Mostly, butterfly-effect type of stuff.

[Doom]

Originally posted by Lucius Confucius:

Originally posted by chronobomb:

As a warning, SETA can completely break your game so make a back-up prior to using SETA.

How can SETA break the game?

Basically, if you SETA for too long, you may fid out that Xenon wiped out half the ZYA (again), Teladi are busily building new stations in now Teladi-owned Matrix 9, ANT grabbed Atiya's Misfortune without help, And PAR did the same with faulty logic. Meanwhile there's Xenon shipyard being built next to smoldering remains of HAT trading station.

Not sure if it is "breaking", it is just a lot of "hilarity ensues" situations.

[Geist]

Originally posted by Doom:

Originally posted by Lucius Confucius:

How can SETA break the game?

Basically, if you SETA for too long, you may fid out that Xenon wiped out half the ZYA (again), Teladi are busily building new stations in now Teladi-owned Matrix 9, ANT grabbed Atiya's Misfortune without help, And PAR did the same with faulty logic. Meanwhile there's Xenon shipyard being built next to smoldering remains of HAT trading station.

Not sure if it is "breaking", it is just a lot of "hilarity ensues" situations.

Those things also happen without SETA. I know that, because I do not use Seta and this is basicly the usual situation after a few ingame days :-D

[chronobomb]

Originally posted by Lucius Confucius:

Originally posted by chronobomb:

As a warning, SETA can completely break your game so make a back-up prior to using SETA.

How can SETA break the game?

SETA can break scripts running in the game. The most often one Ive seen is trading stops for the AI. Ships stop their patrols and wars stop. You can come back and find the economy just broken. So always make a backup in case scripts break.

[gizmo6023]

Disabling the last two notifications I had running and using the office in PHQ got me almost 45 min before something kicked me out. Only reason I was attempting to use it is I have 4 build projects running at once and watching a build is almost as interesting as watching paint dry. SETA sure does make cranking out a batch of fighters much less painfull.
I am keeping an eye on things while in SETA as I want to catch stuff early when it starts going sideways.

[conrado.lacerda]

Just like a recovered addict, I personally advise against using SETA; it's analogous the remote control from that movie "Click" that leads you to miss out on fun stuff just because you're in a hurry to meet this or that objective.

[Lucius Confucius]

Originally posted by chronobomb:

Originally posted by Lucius Confucius:

How can SETA break the game?

SETA can break scripts running in the game. The most often one Ive seen is trading stops for the AI. Ships stop their patrols and wars stop. You can come back and find the economy just broken. So always make a backup in case scripts break.

Had no idea. Is Egosoft aware? And is there a way to fix a broken save?

Quite the glaring bug.

[eMYNOCK]

oh, HQ is aware of the possibility of scripts to be skipped at the most important part of them when parts of the code are skipped in favour of accelerating the game time... it always has been this way.

make a mild guess why they tried to get rid of the mechanic in Rebirth... including whole explanationary lore why the tech was "lost".

its only to very... how to put it politely?... very demanding players that this "prone to break, former dev tool" made its way back into player hands.

[Lucius Confucius]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

oh, HQ is aware of the possibility of scripts to be skipped at the most important part of them when parts of the code are skipped in favour of accelerating the game time... it always has been this way.

make a mild guess why they tried to get rid of the mechanic in Rebirth... including whole explanationary lore why the tech was "lost".

its only to very... how to put it politely?... very demanding players that this "prone to break, former dev tool" made its way back into player hands.

Good to know. I suppose this isn't common knowledge for newer players. Perhaps a warning somewhere that this might break the game.

Though if it just misses a script here and there, those scripts will run again after some time, right? Will things go back to normal if you avoid SETA for a while?

[chronobomb]

Originally posted by Lucius Confucius:

Though if it just misses a script here and there, those scripts will run again after some time, right? Will things go back to normal if you avoid SETA for a while?

Unfortunately no. Usually when a critical script is interrupted, the ships can never complete the command and therefore will never be able to move on or reset to a previous script.

I stopped using SETA after hundreds of transports were stuck in a never ending loop on the donut highway. You couldn't even get on because one of the ghost transports would smash into you and send you flying off.