X4: Foundations

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Let's talk Collector's Edition
I don't know what's going on at Egosoft .

When you sell a collectors edition and then have all these DLC outside of that collection, its not a "Collector's Edition" anymore that's a Starter Edition.

That's a start of a collection that's not a true "Collector's Edition"

Now I don't want to hear semantics of what was labeled on there because at the time only (x) number of DLC was even mentioned on the description at purchase and all this other stuff that doesn't pertain to classification.

Its classified wrong. Its not a collection.

the collection is all this other stuff not in there..

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See that's not a complete collection that's half of a collection when you look at whats missing.
Last edited by theshockcable.tv; Jan 31 @ 12:02pm
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zpc Jan 31 @ 12:01pm 
Do you really have to start a thread about that every year despite already having an answer from Belgoray in the last one?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/392160/discussions/0/4355617880210219423/
What does that say in that post. Its simple. That says "Complete your collection" does it not?
That doesn't say your collection is finished. Don't worry you already have these added to your collection now does it? No.

Then its not a "Collectors Edition" I can state that how I want because the proof is right there. I can state it however many times I want, because again the proof is right there. Belgoray didn't answer that he only said you can buy the others.

That's not the point of this discussion, so zpc stick to the topic.
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Doom Jan 31 @ 12:11pm 
It is very difficult to understand what is the issue you're having.

* Community of Planets Edition includes all currently available DLCs and nothing else.
* Collector Edition also includes soundtracks and Yasur.
* Anniversary includes all games, DLCs and soundtracks ever released.
* Hyperion is included in neither of them, as it isn't released yet.
* Those bundles update when a new DLC is released.

So, what is the issue?

In my case I have 6 out of 6 for community of planets and 6 out of 13 for collectors. If you're filling DLC gaps you should grab Community of Planets while it is on sale.
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Its amazing how people don't read
Mowglia Jan 31 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Doom:
It is very difficult impossible to understand what is the issue you're having.

Fixed that for you :)
Doom Jan 31 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by theshockcable.tv:
Its amazing how people don't read
I did read it and asked three chatbots to decipher it. It is still unclear after that, though one bot suggestd to show emotional support.

The impression I have is that you may have bought collector edition in the past and expected all future DLCs to be added to it automatically. That's not how it works in practice, and that is usually called "season pass". Where you pay significantly bigger amount to "save" on future updates.

The key issue whether your original purchase promised all future updates in clear text. Most likely it didn't. In absence of such promise you can't really expect all future DLCs to be automatically granted. Such misunderstanding could be frustrating, of course, but absense of such offer indicates absence of a promise of inclusion of future DLCs.

Basically:
* Item clearly promised, but not delivered? --> seller's issue
* Item is not clearly promised, but that's strongly implied it is there --> arguable.
* Item is not promised anywhere in writing, and you expect it --> well, that one's on you.

In the previous thread somebody pulled up original preorder text, and it didn't have "all future updates" in it.
Last edited by Doom; Jan 31 @ 1:11pm
GoG has a complete edition with a $4.99 extra dlc for 55.00 right now that has everything but the soundtracks.
Originally posted by theshockcable.tv:
What does that say in that post. Its simple. That says "Complete your collection" does it not?
That doesn't say your collection is finished. Don't worry you already have these added to your collection now does it? No.

Then its not a "Collectors Edition" I can state that how I want because the proof is right there. I can state it however many times I want, because again the proof is right there. Belgoray didn't answer that he only said you can buy the others.

That's not the point of this discussion, so zpc stick to the topic.
"Complete your collection" is a Steam storefront terminology, it's used for ALL products, from all publishers and developers that are set as bundles where you can get the bundle discount even if you already have some of the items in the bundle...without needing to re-buy ones you do have.

It's a nice way to not penalize people who already own the game and 'some' of the bundle contents. Some developers refuse to utilize that type of bundle on their store front, and their discussion boards are always littered with people complaining about it.

The "collection" being completed are those items that are in the bundle, which is why steam calls it "complete your collection". It's bundled item inclusive, not "all content for the game" inclusive.

If you have an issue with the phrasing, you're complaining in the wrong place. You should take it up with Valve in the Steam general feedback discussion area.
¥aeko Jan 31 @ 2:44pm 
Do we really need to explain "collectors edition" to people in 2025?

Its the collectors edition of the BASE GAME, just like with any other game out there.

<insert big publisher here> trying to upvalue their stupidly overpriced "deluxe 69420 uwu-editins" by putting 1-2 worthless DLCs in them, in the future, doesnt make the x4 one wrong -.-

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*********YOUR******** collection... your collection of stuff bought on steam, not THE collection.

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If you want teh DLCs, get that cummunity of planets bundle, or just selectively get the DLCs you want.
Last edited by ¥aeko; Jan 31 @ 2:48pm
ormac Jan 31 @ 3:48pm 
If we're distinguishing Collecters Editions due to the passage of time, at some point something's not going to be included.

The fact that the general market seems to require soundtracks if available to be separated because apparently not everyone's going to want the Game OST.

So you buy the Collection that wasn't including the soundtracks or the DLC that was released 2 years later.

Then grumble about the cost to include these future or extra items.
Again y'all arguing semantics . Its right there. Ergo not a collectors edition. Y'all trying get into all these weren't available blah blah blah and this wasn't promised in this package blah blah blah.

FOCUS!!!!

Collectors Edition. Its TWO WORDS. Y'all can't read two words?

I know I said a lot for you to digest after .

But here lets read this sentence together..

"COMPLETE YOUR COLLECTION!"

Now that we read it together. What you think that means?
That means your collection isn't complete. Therefore , the product sold before all these additional DLC now stay with me here I know its alot to comprehend I'm breaking it down for you.

Wasn't the collector's edition.

What the topic states. Its amazing how I got to break this crap down for y'all who don't stay on topic.
Doom Jan 31 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by theshockcable.tv:
That means your collection isn't complete.
Remember Fallout 4 collectors edition and how it did not include Far Harbor?

Or Oblivion Collectors edition which did not include Shivering Isles?

I suggest to bring your interpretation to the court. See how that works.

Your current interpretation seems to be that if you collect stamps and buy your first set, all other postal stamps in the world must be destroyed and no stamps should ever be produced, otherwise your collection wouldn't be complete.

Originally posted by theshockcable.tv:
Its amazing how I got
It is other way around. You're using an uncommon definition, and everybody else on the forum has been trying to explain this to you. For a year. Unsuccessfully.
¥aeko Jan 31 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by theshockcable.tv:
Collectors Edition. Its TWO WORDS. Y'all can't read two words?
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Now that I vented my frustration with the lack of basic common sense in this thread, lemme eli5 this to you:

I own a "collectors edition" for X3:TC, which was a limited edition...

THAT is what "collectors edition" means - an edition that is not the normal edition and includes other things like: manual, goodies, and last but not least: the game.

We can just stop calling it "collectors edition" and just say: unlimited limited edition instead xD

The name "collectors edition" comes from a time where the dinosaurs still roamed this ball of dirt we call earth, where games included figurines and other things like steelbook cover and so on - they were named like this, for the collectors of games.

At some point we also had "steelbook editions", which were just like the normal game, but with that hardcover packaging.

Now that we read it together. What you think that means?
that you should get a forum ban for being unreasonable over a very long period of time :steamsunny: , given that this has occured in the past too.
Last edited by ¥aeko; Jan 31 @ 6:44pm
Gibbo Jan 31 @ 7:04pm 
For a while now collectors edition has meant certain dlc and not all. I know it sucks, but if it bothers you that much then simply wait lol. I do it all the time now except for this game. Benefits of waiting. You get a fully working/updated game. It's a lot cheaper.

Civ 7 is coming out soon. That will be a blank canvas of a game. There will be several major dlc's missing that totally changes the game. People will still buy it on day one and good luck to them. Some act like we will run out of digital copies, but at the same time it's important to support the devs so find your balance and what you're happy with spending. I'll probably spend a bit on civ 7, but not until the major dlcs are out.
Can bait threads like these please be closed? These spammers keep making new threads to complain about stupid things as soon as their old threads lose attention.
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