X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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Next Gen Console Release PS5 and Xbox?
Is this having any plans to launch for the Next Gen consoles? I'm sure they are more then capable to run this game. Or the devs have any plans for future console release?
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Originally posted by phylumt:
Minimum wage was $5.15 an hour... and to buy a PC you had to walk up hill in the snow both ways.

You forget the parts of the world where it still is and those who simply dont WANT to spend this much for "hobbys"

I can buy myself a new gaming PC whenever i want,
12y experienced in my job, german wage, no obligations besides paying my bills...
ezpz
My Turkish pal in the 100% same situation?
Using my old Rig because dear lord inflation over there is a bit*** and their wages are a joke.
Co worker of me.... 2 children...
Using console and bought his children new bikes for christmas....

Gaming is mainstream now, consoles are the cheap entry.
Gatekeeping means loosing out money this game desperately needs to get forwards

Not beeing able to port this game or risk-reward beeing too small ok sure.
If thats the case better dont waste dev time on smth thats not sustainable.
But gatekeeping for childish "masterrace" or "true gaming" stuff is kinda dumb $€-wise.
Last edited by Donauwelle; Jan 3 @ 8:58am
phylumt Jan 3 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
Originally posted by phylumt:
Minimum wage was $5.15 an hour... and to buy a PC you had to walk up hill in the snow both ways.

You forget the parts of the world where it still is and those who simply dont WANT to spend this much for "hobbys"

I can buy myself a new gaming PC whenever i want,
12y experienced in my job, german wage, no obligations besides paying my bills...
ezpz
My Turkish pal in the 100% same situation?
Using my old Rig because dear lord inflation over there is a bit*** and their wages are a joke.
Co worker of me.... 2 children...
Using console and bought his children new bikes for christmas....

Gaming is mainstream now, consoles are the cheap entry.
Gatekeeping means loosing out money this game desperately needs to get forwards


Originally posted by Donauwelle:
Originally posted by phylumt:
Minimum wage was $5.15 an hour... and to buy a PC you had to walk up hill in the snow both ways.

You forget the parts of the world where it still is and those who simply dont WANT to spend this much for "hobbys"

I can buy myself a new gaming PC whenever i want,
12y experienced in my job, german wage, no obligations besides paying my bills...
ezpz
My Turkish pal in the 100% same situation?
Using my old Rig because dear lord inflation over there is a bit*** and their wages are a joke.
Co worker of me.... 2 children...
Using console and bought his children new bikes for christmas....

Gaming is mainstream now, consoles are the cheap entry.
Gatekeeping means loosing out money this game desperately needs to get forwards

dunno about that. I mean after you spend $500 for a console you gotta spend $120 a year for a subscription... then the games which are around $60 EACH. I mean don't get me wrong, I like consoles, I own the Xbox Series X, I remember In 2001/2002 I purchased two XBox 360's so my oldest son and I could play games together... but I also had 3 PCs at the time. My point to the above to Geist (which included obviously some joking around) is that I spent $300 to get two Sceptre Curved 24.5-inch gaming monitors, while in 1996 Sony sold a 19" monitor that weighed 66pounds (almost 30Kilogram) for $1900... the monitor. My currrent PC cost less than a monitor in 1996... in fact my PC and my two monitors, my computer desk, microphone, speaker... etc all cost me less than a monitor in 1996. I guess that was my whole point, the idea that people TODAY think computers are expensive... when they're so insanely cheap and what you get now vs 20+ years ago is ridiculous.
Geist Jan 3 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by phylumt:
Originally posted by Geist:
I can tell you what happened. A current gen gaming PC that is able to run new games costs about 3.500-4.000 EUR now. A few years ago you could play the newest games on a machine that cost 2.000-2.500 EUR. Heck my 4090 was f*ing 1.900 EUR on a SALE. That is a full monthly net wage of many people especialy younger people.
The drastical price increase for new gen hardware outprices many gamers. Thats also why you see so many people complain about 60EUR games. We all know that this is dirt cheap for the amount of work and money invested in this projects but people simply can't afford it anymore.


Geist, i'm sorry... but as GenX I can't believe PC Pricing is an actual complaint. Dude, I remember when you wanted a system in 1992 a PC with 8MB (yes I said 8 Megabyte) of DRAM, a 300MB (yes I didn't say Terabyte) a Super VGA Monitor, windows 3... you were going to spend around $3,500. Your monitor had 256 colors, around 1998 256mb if SD ram for... $586. Minimum wage was $5.15 an hour... and to buy a PC you had to walk up hill in the snow both ways.
Yes there was a times like that, I'm old enough to have played video games on black and white monitors. But that was also the time when video games were stuff for nerdy rich people and not a hobby for the masses. Owning a PC was very rare and you basicaly had to upgrade every 20 minutes because of the rapid develoment of new hardware if you wanted to stay up to date. As soon as you purchased the stuff you knew it lost half its value a week later.
But now gaming is not a niche hobby anymore. It has become one of the most popular forms of entertainment and for a good while it also became cheap enough to attract many people. But that time is over now.
On PC pricing, my only complaint is the graphics cards. When I started off building my own pcs as a hardly-any-cash lad, I could gradually build a pc over months and then finally get a decent graphics card for about £300. It wasn't that hard even as a poor guy.

Today building a pc is made far more difficult due to the generally ludicrous prices of graphics card costing up to £1500 (or more) which really shouldn't be any more than about £800. And they don't even perform all that much better for the cash. The graphics card pricing gives consolers almost a genuine reason to go consoles.

Still better to save and go pc than a console though, imho; it just takes 'patience' and 'disciplne'... I know ugly words for many, but the long-term pay off is great.
phylumt Jan 3 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by PeaceMaker:
On PC pricing, my only complaint is the graphics cards. When I started off building my own pcs as a hardly-any-cash lad, I could gradually build a pc over months and then finally get a decent graphics card for about £300. It wasn't that hard even as a poor guy.

Today building a pc is made far more difficult due to the generally ludicrous prices of graphics card costing up to £1500 (or more) which really shouldn't be any more than about £800. And they don't even perform all that much better for the cash. The graphics card pricing gives consolers almost a genuine reason to go consoles.

Still better to save and go pc than a console though, imho; it just takes 'patience' and 'disciplne'... I know ugly words for many, but the long-term pay off is great.

My youngest son asked for a Graphics Card for his PC, because his was several years old and if I recall at least 6 generations outdated. I'm curious what titles drive that demand to require constant spec changes in video cards.
Originally posted by phylumt:

My youngest son asked for a Graphics Card for his PC, because his was several years old and if I recall at least 6 generations outdated. I'm curious what titles drive that demand to require constant spec changes in video cards.

Ah yes. He's probably wanting the latest triple A type games. You don't need the `best` GPUs for those even though they will think they do. However, were it I choosing for him, wouldn't go any more than say a 3080 12 gig or the Radeon equivalent as they're plenty for any game today - unless he's using VR. Just my opinion.
Iv seen people confused and/or comparing platform and in a sorta way i understand.
I'm not in to any console wars or witch is batter pc or consoles or what else is out there.
is about tastes and i respect all of them, thats why we are humans to be diffrent and learn to apreciate eatch other with our diffrences. If we would be the same that would make us robots. And i hope and like to belive that no one here got offended or try to attack or harm eatch other in anyway. We all here for the same reason and need to respect eatch other eather if you enjoy PC or CONSOLE, we are here to socialize and enjoy games not fight within eatch and other subject that concernes Console or Pc. Anyhow me point and an answer i was looking for if there is any clue if this game will ever be released for consoles.
Best Regards to everyone!
eMYNOCK  [developer] Jan 3 @ 1:26pm 
the one reason why gpus are expensive i for sure know of...

crypto miners.

the market is empty before some models even have rolled out.

i mean, i won't blame them... and once such a mining card has served its initial purpose it usually lands for way less than original price back on the market.

no shame in using a decent 2nd hand gup if its in good shape.
its problematic if it suffered any damages... but it is one way to get cards that are only one or two generations behind and still in good enough shape to run most things.
Well a used video card is almost the same price as new they hide it with reconditioned status which mean cleaned with isopropyl and dry air :)

Well used Duracell batteries sell on amazon for 70 cents each vs 90 to 1 dollar each for new.
America has just got a lot of scammers these days.
Last edited by SirProsik; Jan 3 @ 2:12pm
phylumt Jan 3 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by SirProsik:
Well a used video card is almost the same price as new they hide it with reconditioned status which mean cleaned with isopropyl and dry air :)

Well used Duracell batteries sell on amazon for 70 cents each vs 90 to 1 dollar each for new.
America has just got a lot of scammers these days.
You aren't wrong... heck false reporting USBs were a thing (maybe still are.) scammers pick up low mb USB Memory Sticks, alter them to report a higher MB and then you find out trying to use it.
Gibbo Jan 3 @ 2:51pm 
I think the biggest problem this game will have on consoles is the UI and controllor.

I just bought my son a ps5 and a 4k tv for xmas. Less than £1000 and he's 4k gaming. TV was half price and I got that in the black friday sales that have somehow made their way to our shores. The PS5 I didn't get to Xmas eve. I was very lucky lol.

You might see an X game on the PS7? By then it should be a holodeck!
eMYNOCK  [developer] Jan 3 @ 6:39pm 
Originally posted by Gibbo:
I think the biggest problem this game will have on consoles is the UI and controllor.

I just bought my son a ps5 and a 4k tv for xmas. Less than £1000 and he's 4k gaming. TV was half price and I got that in the black friday sales that have somehow made their way to our shores. The PS5 I didn't get to Xmas eve. I was very lucky lol.

You might see an X game on the PS7? By then it should be a holodeck!

just try to literally imagine that.. by the time actual PC gamers might have so advanced hardware that you can live in the game while the consoles are... technically.. what we use today...

*sigh* if it weren't so sad it would almost be funny...

and no.. i do not mean that as an insult or low key pun...
and everyone with a keen eye should have noticed that my initial reply wasn't meant serious either...

its just how the things have changed what amazes me... how we can openly argue about the pro and cons compared to not even a decade ago...
Doom Jan 4 @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by Gibbo:
I think the biggest problem this game will have on consoles is the UI and controllor.

I just bought my son a ps5 and a 4k tv for xmas. Less than £1000 and he's 4k gaming. TV was half price and I got that in the black friday sales that have somehow made their way to our shores. The PS5 I didn't get to Xmas eve. I was very lucky lol.

You might see an X game on the PS7? By then it should be a holodeck!
If a console has an USB port, no reason for it not to support a mouse and and a keyboard. Also X4 has fairly decent gamepad support, I believe. Though Elite Dangerous did it better.
Gibbo Jan 4 @ 3:47am 
Yeah consoles have caught up. My boy is disabled so he doesn't play hardcore games like daddy does. But all I've done over xmas is watch him play Lego City and Astro Bot and they do look stunning. They're both excellent games btw. Lego City has made me laugh a lot. You know I heard the Xbox is even better than the ps5? They were all sold out.

Of course the big attraction for consoles is ease of use and using them in comfort. Well I've been pc gaming for years in a recliner lol so I got them beat there. You don't need to sit at a desk for a pc. You just need a couple of the right size desks. One with wheels on so you can bring your keyboard in close when you are fully reclined and another, bigger desk for your mouse and you can just about get away with playing X4 like that lol. This is great because it supports your entire arm and not just your wrist and that means more gaming! But no first person shooters laying down. You need a straight, vertical back to play those. Can still put my feet up though.

Of course the best thing about consoles is a disabled child can use them. My son wouldn't have a clue on my pc. But he can turn his ps5 on and load and play games. That's a big plus that the pc will probably never have?
simeon Jan 4 @ 3:49am 
Originally posted by eMYNOCK:
its just how the things have changed what amazes me... how we can openly argue about the pro and cons compared to not even a decade ago...

As it is with most opponents, allies, friends, trends, dos/don'ts, facts, etc. and im all with you about the increasing speed of changes in group building, what again makes it difficult for some to adapt to the even faster changing trends of what is currents most bad thing one has to agree upon (depending on region & group, ofc).
Hence im going with what @donauwele wrote; like if it is in the products feasible interest to receive a broader audience via console release, may resulting in additional revenue to be reinvested into the product as well as in general for the safe of more people being able to play X4.
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