Extremely high temperature on GPU

[BrUwU]

On avg game run 50 to maybe 80 on hot spot in some busy sectors. But some sectors, easily break into 100+ degree on hot spot, but what is really weird it is not even busy sectors. The Heretic End is one of those sectors, cooking my GPU (RX6900) like there is no tomorrow.

[climbingeastofwinter]

You should be able to set a maximum frame rate for your GPU through whatever software amd provides for that. I'd try limiting it to 60, or 45 frames per second and seeing how that impacts the temperatures.

Honestly though, I have my graphics settings on low with a fps limit of 45 and I get some serious stutter when HOP invades ANT space. Can't consistently keep 20fps with a newish system (in ~30+ destroyer and ~30+ fighter engagements).

[BrUwU]

Originally posted by climbingeastofwinter:

You should be able to set a maximum frame rate for your GPU through whatever software amd provides for that. I'd try limiting it to 60, or 45 frames per second and seeing how that impacts the temperatures.

Honestly though, I have my graphics settings on low with a fps limit of 45 and I get some serious stutter when HOP invades ANT space. Can't consistently keep 20fps with a newish system (in ~30+ destroyer and ~30+ fighter engagements).

It is set to 60FPS and VSynced. We are not talking about stutter. The game is just cooking GPU in some cherry picked sectors for no apperant reason.

[climbingeastofwinter]

If you figure it out I'd be interested to know the answer too.

[Splutty]

Almost certainly that's particles. Like fog and such. Fairly easy to check actually.

Go to a sector that has a lot of gas mining regions, then do a max alt-3 ping, and if your FPS craters while your GPU spools up its fans, then that's all the 'cloudy' stuff that the ping causes on the gas clouds.

[SinisterSlay]

Time to blow the dust bunnies out.

[BrUwU]

Originally posted by Splutty:

Almost certainly that's particles. Like fog and such. Fairly easy to check actually.

Go to a sector that has a lot of gas mining regions, then do a max alt-3 ping, and if your FPS craters while your GPU spools up its fans, then that's all the 'cloudy' stuff that the ping causes on the gas clouds.

It is, but what is really weirding me out, is that it goes way past stress/synthetic test values. Under 100% synthetic test GPU goes up to 100, meanwhile in any other real game i rarely see anything higher than 90degree. Why does X4 in particular is soo keen on cooking my GPU?

[Veter]

Disable volumetric fog, disable FSR and disable ray tracing and etc things, also lower shadows as they use cpu for its calculation, set texture filtering on FXAA, disable SSAO, disable reflection probes and disable on cockpit reflections

[BrUwU]

Originally posted by Veter:

Disable volumetric fog, disable FSR and disable ray tracing and etc things, also lower shadows as they use cpu for its calculation, set texture filtering on FXAA, disable SSAO, disable reflection probes and disable on cockpit reflections

Will try next time i play the game. Building some gunpla right now. :)

[Mythos]

You need more airflow in your case if you are hitting those temps. Either your gpu fans are clogged with dust or fan case fans are, or you just don't have enough fans all together. You can get a cheap blower off amazon that is waaay better than a can of air. Don't forget to hold your fans in place so they don't spin.

[Thomas - Sohn von Hubert]

Originally posted by BrUwU:

Originally posted by Splutty:

Almost certainly that's particles. Like fog and such. Fairly easy to check actually.

Go to a sector that has a lot of gas mining regions, then do a max alt-3 ping, and if your FPS craters while your GPU spools up its fans, then that's all the 'cloudy' stuff that the ping causes on the gas clouds.

It is, but what is really weirding me out, is that it goes way past stress/synthetic test values. Under 100% synthetic test GPU goes up to 100, meanwhile in any other real game i rarely see anything higher than 90degree. Why does X4 in particular is soo keen on cooking my GPU?

GPUs have become very complex and different workloads can affect different parts of the GPU.
X4 probably stresses some particular part of the die heavily, while stresstests put a more even load on the entire chip.
That could cause e.g. the power limit to kick in before a particular area gets too hot.
Or there is a bottleneck in other parts of the chip or interfaces that leave some circuits waiting for longer.

[BrUwU]

Originally posted by Thomas - Sohn von Hubert:

Originally posted by BrUwU:

It is, but what is really weirding me out, is that it goes way past stress/synthetic test values. Under 100% synthetic test GPU goes up to 100, meanwhile in any other real game i rarely see anything higher than 90degree. Why does X4 in particular is soo keen on cooking my GPU?

GPUs have become very complex and different workloads can affect different parts of the GPU.
X4 probably stresses some particular part of the die heavily, while stresstests put a more even load on the entire chip.
That could cause e.g. the power limit to kick in before a particular area gets too hot.
Or there is a bottleneck in other parts of the chip or interfaces that leave some circuits waiting for longer.

I kind of have a clue, i'm a consultant, but i'm mostly do memory managment on one engine everyone says is bad because no one wants to do a good job of managing memory in it :D.
It just fascinates me, and confuses, i never seen behavior like this. Where even the most hardass games can't cook GPU higher than 95-96 degree, when X is like hold my beer here is 100+ degree.

[Thomas - Sohn von Hubert]

Yeah, it does work in mysterious ways.
The temperature should still be fine, but it feels very high.

[SinisterSlay]

I think AMD GPUs just have very hot hotspots. My 6700xt rides the 90s as well. I don't like i that hot.

[PeaceMaker]

Maybe the hot weather lately is a factor?

Always consider the weather and its affect on your GPU/PC. In weather like this I make an extra effort to clean out case dust and keep the fans clean.

[Splutty]

Originally posted by BrUwU:

Originally posted by Splutty:

Almost certainly that's particles. Like fog and such. Fairly easy to check actually.

Go to a sector that has a lot of gas mining regions, then do a max alt-3 ping, and if your FPS craters while your GPU spools up its fans, then that's all the 'cloudy' stuff that the ping causes on the gas clouds.

It is, but what is really weirding me out, is that it goes way past stress/synthetic test values. Under 100% synthetic test GPU goes up to 100, meanwhile in any other real game i rarely see anything higher than 90degree. Why does X4 in particular is soo keen on cooking my GPU?

Also make sure when you're running your benchmarks that you run a Vulkan one, not a DirectX one, since X4 is 100% Vulkan. No idea if this would make a difference, but it would at least be more realistic, sort of.

(For reference, with everything at max, my 4080 runs 62C at 1440p)