Lossless Scaling (app) Frame Generation + X4 = Huge Performance Gain (for me)

[Percopius]

Mid Game;
Before - Map 60, Space 80 - 120
After - Map 120+, Space 165+/- (my refresh rate)

Works really well, large performance gains, in the map its double.

Settings;
windowed
82 frame rate limit (165mhz monitor) (I use RTSS - Reflex)
LSI scaling, performance
LSFG 2.1 Frame Generation, x2, allow tearing

You could see really impressive gains for about 5 dollars. Worth it, LS is a great program, can make a lot of games playable that were not before, works best on older games with no DLSS or FG. BNest 5 bucks I have spent in ages.

[¥aeko]

The only issue is: X4 is cpu-bound for most people, except those with the very fastest ones.

If your graphics card is old enough to not be able to cope with X4, the cpu will be too.

EDIT: That said, the image quality of that app most likely is better than the games FSR1

[Percopius]

Originally posted by ¥aeko:

The only issue is: X4 is cpu-bound for most people, except those with the very fastest ones.

If your graphics card is old enough to not be able to cope with X4, the cpu will be too.

EDIT: That said, the image quality of that app most likely is better than the games FSR1

Yes, I was not expecting the improvement I got, but I did get a meaningful performance improvement. I was really surprised in the map, which I never saw more that 60fps (now I see 120).

Yes, X4 is definitely CPU bound, but Lossless somehow works really well, for me at least. I have a ASUS g18 SCAR laptop, so I have top of the line CPU (14900HX), GPU (4090 mobile), 64 gig RAM, but its not as fast as a similar setup desktop.

Anyways, it 5 bucks, and can be really useful. And it has Nvidia and AMD scaling, and some others that work well for 2D games, but I have to say, its own scaling (LS1) looks better that both Nvidia and AMD to me. Its only x2 scaling, but just the scaling they provide is worth the price.

P.S. The fact that it does all this with no access to the games graphic routines is frankly amazing. They use machine learning to get the results they get, and its really impressive.

[Artean]

Interesting find! I might have to give this one a try. Anyone else tried it yet in X4?

[Artean]

Btw, can you run it in fullscreen?

[SinisterSlay]

AMD has frame gen you can turn on for any game. I never tried with X4 but it was awful in every other game I have tried. It causes huge input lag.

[Vault Traveler]

I play on ultrawide and lets say this program is a godsend if you dont have a state of the art gpu.

[Artean]

Originally posted by Vault Traveler:

I play on ultrawide and lets say this program is a godsend if you dont have a state of the art gpu.

Do you have to run X4 in windowed mode?

[Vault Traveler]

Originally posted by Artean:

Originally posted by Vault Traveler:

I play on ultrawide and lets say this program is a godsend if you dont have a state of the art gpu.

Do you have to run X4 in windowed mode?

yes fullscreen window mode to be precise.

[Percopius]

Originally posted by Artean:

Btw, can you run it in fullscreen?

It makes windows fullscreen, borderless basically. I start from a window at half the resolution of my screen (1440p). The app has two parts; scaling (upscaling) and frame generation. It has Nividia, AMD, FS1 (there scaling) and 4? others (mainly for 2d)

[trooperrob]

Don't many monitors upscale? or graphics cards can render in lower res then upscale?
did you try those before paying?
(presumably not all, but I think mine does)

[Shibitari]

I tried out lossless on X4: Foundations and it absolutely gives the best experience to play this game. Best $6.99 I've ever spent. Downloading FPS isn't a meme anymore. xD

[Percopius]

Originally posted by Shibitari:

I tried out lossless on X4: Foundations and it absolutely gives the best experience to play this game. Best $6.99 I've ever spent. Downloading FPS isn't a meme anymore. xD

Yeah, a must buy utility. Not perfect, but amazing on some titles (like MGS5 - just fantastic results, or AC6 - I use no scaling and just frame generation, set RTS to limit frame rate to 82, in-game to 90, get 164 FPS, max details, perfectly smooth, zero frame drops.

[Dionis]

Originally posted by Percopius:

Originally posted by Shibitari:

I tried out lossless on X4: Foundations and it absolutely gives the best experience to play this game. Best $6.99 I've ever spent. Downloading FPS isn't a meme anymore. xD

Yeah, a must buy utility. Not perfect, but amazing on some titles (like MGS5 - just fantastic results, or AC6 - I use no scaling and just frame generation, set RTS to limit frame rate to 82, in-game to 90, get 164 FPS, max details, perfectly smooth, zero frame drops.

You are not getting doubled FPS when you use Lossless Scaling's frame generation.
Next time you measure your fps take a look at your frametime.

[Cookie]

Lossless I use for most of my games. I'm able to get almost 150 fps with it and having X4 at max settings. Such a beautiful game

[Geist]

What does it different than FSR?