"E class" destroyers

[Storm]

Hi there,

What is special about the "E class" destroyers please?

Like the Behemoth E, the Teladi E one and the Paranid E one?

I can't seem to find any info about what the E really means.

I know Vanguard vs Sentinel, but not sure about E.

Thanks!

[Azunai]

the E versions have better stats than the Vanguard and Sentinel versions.

[Storm]

Cool, thanks!

[Geist]

The E-class versions of the ships are redesigned versions. Egosoft wasn't happy with the old designs and decided that some ships needed an upgrade. But they also wanted to keep savegame compatibility, so instead of just replacing the old ships with new ones, they added the E version to the game. In old savegames, the old ship models will be replaced one by one with the new ones, as the Ai build new ships, but the old ones will remain available to the player to build.

[Storm]

That's a great answer, thanks!

[SinisterSlay]

Which is 100% great solution. Don't take content away, just add more. In game universe explanation can just call it an upgrade.

[gizmo6023]

From the encyclopedia:
The E-model variation was introduced at a later date, and updated the superficial design to bring it up to par with Commonwealth standards that were established during the period of disconnection. The precursor version is slowly being phased out, but will remain available for interested third parties.

[KEKSohneNAMEN]

I'd like to add one more thing:
while the upgrade in terms of equipment and looks was nice, it also had downsides.
Almost all original destroyers could hold 40 S-class craft; the original Odysseus additionaly could hold 10 M-class ships. Together with the original Behemoth (thanks to its four launch bays), it was quite suitable as a mini-carrier.
The E versions have reduced carrying capacity in that regard.

[Malagon]

Originally posted by SinisterSlay:

Which is 100% great solution. Don't take content away, just add more. In game universe explanation can just call it an upgrade.

More developers should follow this line of thought.

[zpc]

For me only the E versions exist. Everything else is outdated junk with unbalanced copy&paste placeholder stats which shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. It was so important Egosoft finally corrected it - in the weird Egosoft way (#SavegameCompatibilityEvenWhenItIsWeirdAsHell)

[Konaan]

I like the designs on the E Class ships and use them exclusively. I only use the old designs when I have missions to build fleets since they are often cheaper. I understand about keeping the old designs for the players, but at some point I hope they make a way to auto convert those old designs to the new and remove them completely....but not until they introduce more E class designs across the board.

[TwinChops]

Originally posted by SinisterSlay:

Which is 100% great solution. Don't take content away, just add more. In game universe explanation can just call it an upgrade.

Yes but also no. What i dont like about the E Ships is the fact that they nerfed hangar space hard (Im okay with this aswell, Destroyers shouldnt been able to hangar 40+ ships anyways) but left the old ones the same, basicly meaning the old ones are still MUCH better then the new ones.

[Priest]

Is X4 Available on Consoles ?
If yes they are forced to do it this way, i think it was XBox or Sony who make Savegame compability mandatory. Its the reason why so many Early access games never get updates on consoles

[Gibbo]

Originally posted by Geist:

The E-class versions of the ships are redesigned versions. Egosoft wasn't happy with the old designs and decided that some ships needed an upgrade. But they also wanted to keep savegame compatibility, so instead of just replacing the old ships with new ones, they added the E version to the game. In old savegames, the old ship models will be replaced one by one with the new ones, as the Ai build new ships, but the old ones will remain available to the player to build.

Excellent answer and I did wonder about them. Typical Egosoft. Thinking of their fans.

For me the Crane E is the miner of choice. An unstoppable mushroom that very nearly always finds it way home. Only the Xenon or 50+ Khaak can stop this beauty and unless it's a K or God forbid an I then it will probably survive the most heinious assaults until you can send in reinforcements and the old girl is worth looking after.

[Doom]

Originally posted by TwinChops:

Yes but also no. What i dont like about the E Ships is the fact that they nerfed hangar space hard

They nerfed it, because old ships had insane amount of hangar space. Old style L miner can hold 40 ships inside, in addition to ore. There's physically not enough space to fit them in.

Originally posted by Priest:

Is X4 Available on Consoles ?

No.

[TwinChops]

Originally posted by Doom:

Originally posted by TwinChops:

Yes but also no. What i dont like about the E Ships is the fact that they nerfed hangar space hard

They nerfed it, because old ships had insane amount of hangar space. Old style L miner can hold 40 ships inside, in addition to ore. There's physically not enough space to fit them in. .

Yes i know, thats what a wrote in my answer aswell.