Is this it? Is this the Endgame?

[The Dank Lord [GER]]

I'm at a point now where I'm basically just waiting. I have over 500 million credits now, I'm slowly building my own space stations so I can make my own ships later, there is nothing going on in the galaxy, no Xenon Rampage or any other Faction taking over the galaxy, no one took over any other sector except for 2 distant Paranid sectors who are now Xenon
I'm doing the Split plot now and wait until I have 800 million to found the uprising a second time, then I wanna get the blueprints for the Paranid station to finish their plot, I finished the Terran plot and started the war, killed the Yaki but didn't destroyed the Xenon stations, the pirate plot, selling protectyon, invited the borons to the party used a mod so everyone is at war with the syndicate because they suck

What can I still do except starting my own crusade against the galaxy for being to stubbon to do anything?

[Bullpup]

Endgame is really the least developed part of X4, basically once you defeated (or contained, if you prefer that option) the Xenon it's just finish off the stories and try a new start.

I mean you can declare war against a faction but within 3 minutes it'll be all out galactic war as one of your escort ships on "intercept" attacks your foe in a neutral sector and now you've aggroed an ally's police and forgot one of your miners there had turrets on 'all enemies' so now the entire ally police is red etc etc.

I was hoping that Timelines would be a diplomacy and 4X update (expand, exploit, exterminate) but it's not that. So no benefit to wiping out MIN, it's not like you get their stations or resources.

[¥aeko]

Originally posted by The Dank Lord GER:

What can I still do except starting my own crusade against the galaxy for being to stubbon to do anything?

Nothing - you won.

maybe 7.00 improves that.

[Donauwelle]

Originally posted by The Dank Lord GER:

What can I still do except starting my own crusade against the galaxy for being to stubbon to do anything?

Well you can make unified Paranids wage war against other Factions and Support one...
Same with the Terrans, depending on your choice during the "investigation" with ARG/ANT you can setup a war.

Doenst make the AI react to the Player tho.
Atleast not on a "Global scale".

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by The Dank Lord GER:

What can I still do except starting my own crusade against the galaxy for being to stubbon to do anything?

You finally have... peace.

Is that not the ultimate goal?

[Bozz 💀]

Mods, use mods.

I mean only the gettingpaid mod which adds salaries changes the game completelly, even a small fleet cost me a few million credits, 5 Million an hour for a military destroyer...
gotta have a civilian economy to have a decent workforce that will pay you taxtes so you don't go bankrupt.
Factions that have actually decent fleets, that can invade properly etc...
Give them proper shipyards that can actually build a whole fleet instead of 1 or 2 Destroyers every 30 minutes...
Give them less construction ships because they are waste of ressources and time (can't build a XL ship while they are building their 25th construction ship that won't do anything except wait for the player to hire it)....

The base game is too soft on the player, I like it more hardcore.
Make your own end game with mods.

[Cellar_Cat]

Yes. There's basically nothing to do toward the end, it's been a long term complaint that's presumably behind some of the changes in 7.0

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

I mean only the gettingpaid mod which adds salaries changes the game completelly, even a small fleet cost me a few million credits, 5 Million an hour for a military destroyer...

Never really saw the appeal in that. There are two ways that occur to me to get around it: one is by playing more or less normally but having a much larger civilian economy—and thus worse overall game performance—than you'd normally require to support however many military ships you want. The other is to min max it with factories with no habitats, trade ships with no crew, defence platforms to kill things and gatherers to collect profitable items on repeat orders.

Are those that great of an experience?

[Meme Turtle]

And then some wonder how you can dislike the game after spending hundreds of hours in. That's how. You spent 99% of it waiting..

[Bab Peeg]

Pretty much, I started a fight with the paranid just for something to do.

[=STP= Isegrim]

Yeah ... I have to add that the xenon also arent anymore what they have been in the past. Especialy when experienced players know where to hurt them they are basicaly a joke.

[The Dank Lord [GER]]

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

Mods, use mods.

That's what I'm doing. I have the Dynamic Wars altered mod to change the relations between the factions so I can let them declare war against each other or all be friends :D

Originally posted by Donauwelle:

Well you can make unified Paranids wage war against other Factions and Support one...
Same with the Terrans, depending on your choice during the "investigation" with ARG/ANT you can setup a war.

Doenst make the AI react to the Player tho.
Atleast not on a "Global scale".

ARG/ANT/BOR are now at war with TER and I guess I will let unified Paranids fight against everyone with the mod I use

[hurepoix]

People who play plot are courageous, because there is nothing exciting in. It is hard to considere war as end game, since player just roll on anything who dare to resist.

[The Dank Lord [GER]]

Originally posted by hurepoix:

People who play plot are courageous, because there is nothing exciting in. It is hard to considere war as end game, since player just roll on anything who dare to resist.

lmao yeah, when I send my fleet to destroy the Yaki station I could've destroyed all the xenon stations on the way too, I just didn't wanted to.
There is a mod to make the factions hyper aggressive but there is a bug that ends in a memory leak, that makes the game stutter really bad in the main menu already. Wish I could use this mod.

[Tiberius]

The game doesnt have ship cap, so you can simply throw fighter swarm or a couple asgard or asgard swarm and call it a day.

And no faction can keep up with the proxy war that you fuel by pumping millions worth of resources into the universe

[Bozz 💀]

No ship cap is not good there should be some kind of cap or a way to prevent you from going too crazy..... of course AI can't keep up, if they went crazy with building ships nobody would be able to run the game. same goes for stations and economy.

I think there should be some kind of cap, you should need to pay salaries at the very least with a difficulty slider to change wages from very low to very high...

Right now as some people said, build a wharf, get a fighter blueprint and just mass print fighters, I mean in one of my old game I had fleets of 1.000 fighters (several) when I launched an attack on a xenon shipyard I would select a few fleets, the game would freeze for a few seconds and then they would all move to eat the station to 0 HPs lol

[hurepoix]

Originally posted by Tiberius:

And no faction can keep up with the proxy war that you fuel by pumping millions worth of resources into the universe

Money in itself is not a problem for AI. AI have unlimited budget and print money each time it need it.

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

I mean in one of my old game I had fleets of 1.000 fighters (several) when I launched an attack

I had to do that in V3 with ROR mod. At that time L and XL ships had to cross portals one by one and with manuevers it took lot of time between two.

Strong defense and fleet were behing the the gate to protect main ennemy sector, and my strongest ships were not able to survive enough time for the next ship arrive to help.
I had to send 2000 fighters at once to open the way and distract ennemy enough for my fleet (at least a part can enter to do the job).

like you I had severe lags, but unlike you I had casualties.