X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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Mogger Dec 20, 2023 @ 10:22pm
I dont mean this to be controversial
Why is there only African american people(I mean no harm) in the game, I counted how many were at my nearest station and it is overwhelmingly African then I counted at another station farther away(significantly farther) and didnt find a single non-African I swear I am not racist just wondering why I cant find many if any at all of my own race in the game, is there a mod I can download to balance this?
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Cellar_Cat Dec 20, 2023 @ 10:34pm 
It's highly random in my experience. The thing is it's random on a big scale, not on a small one. You can go through a station and see nearly all euros/asians/afris or you can get a mix.

The distance plays no factor as far as I know. I doubt they are even persistent, it seems you get a new set of people each time you come to a station, with the exception of employed ones like a faction rep.
Last edited by Cellar_Cat; Dec 20, 2023 @ 10:34pm
Zordiark Darkeater Dec 20, 2023 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Cellar_Cat:
It's highly random in my experience. The thing is it's random on a big scale, not on a small one. You can go through a station and see nearly all euros/asians/afris or you can get a mix.

The distance plays no factor as far as I know. I doubt they are even persistent, it seems you get a new set of people each time you come to a station, with the exception of employed ones like a faction rep.

yeah Employed NPCs are saved
Most of the other NPCs are regenerated everytime you land.

atleast thats what i noticed.
And yes NPC generation is Random pure rng mostly.
nZ RaifalM3n Dec 20, 2023 @ 11:15pm 
I think its random generated.
Mogger Dec 21, 2023 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by Cellar_Cat:
It's highly random in my experience. The thing is it's random on a big scale, not on a small one. You can go through a station and see nearly all euros/asians/afris or you can get a mix.

The distance plays no factor as far as I know. I doubt they are even persistent, it seems you get a new set of people each time you come to a station, with the exception of employed ones like a faction rep.
Yeah were I live there is a mix of people everywhere(I live in a big city in america) so when i see people only of 1 race of ANY race it rubs me wrong. Is there any mods to make the npcs more diverse?
¥aeko Dec 21, 2023 @ 12:42am 
The game seems to have like a 50% chance to generate them, and is not set up with realworld-data, aka: ~1-2/100 in Europe or so.

I think, even for U.S. population (around 12%), the distribution is wrong, especially since it is missing quite a few ethnicities to begin with.

I think, they should add the missing ethnicities and move closer (with the distribution) to real world data.

But I guess, its a money-issue and so they went with like: lets make 50% black so, so we wont get drama and fill some arbitary "inclusivity quota".

I mean, if you dont like it, it should be editable with a tiny mod, the logic for the generation must be somewhere in the files after all.

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Dont missread what I wrote, please.
Last edited by ¥aeko; Dec 21, 2023 @ 12:47am
Cellar_Cat Dec 21, 2023 @ 1:00am 
Originally posted by Frank:
Originally posted by Cellar_Cat:
It's highly random in my experience. The thing is it's random on a big scale, not on a small one. You can go through a station and see nearly all euros/asians/afris or you can get a mix.

The distance plays no factor as far as I know. I doubt they are even persistent, it seems you get a new set of people each time you come to a station, with the exception of employed ones like a faction rep.
Yeah were I live there is a mix of people everywhere(I live in a big city in america) so when i see people only of 1 race of ANY race it rubs me wrong. Is there any mods to make the npcs more diverse?

I think already each of the 3 racial categories probably has the same chance to spawn (interestingly, this actually nets you more europeans than on the real planet earth). To get what you want might be harder than it sounds, as you'd have to introduce some logic so that there's always at least some minimum amount of each racial category on every station.
Poot Dec 21, 2023 @ 3:59am 
Originally posted by Frank:
Originally posted by Cellar_Cat:
It's highly random in my experience. The thing is it's random on a big scale, not on a small one. You can go through a station and see nearly all euros/asians/afris or you can get a mix.

The distance plays no factor as far as I know. I doubt they are even persistent, it seems you get a new set of people each time you come to a station, with the exception of employed ones like a faction rep.
Yeah were I live there is a mix of people everywhere(I live in a big city in america) so when i see people only of 1 race of ANY race it rubs me wrong. Is there any mods to make the npcs more diverse?

I live in a big city in the UK and see only people of my own ethnicity in the main but it doesn't give me the "rub" when I see other ethnicity.
PeaceMaker Dec 21, 2023 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by Frank:
Why is there only African american people(I mean no harm) in the game, I counted how many were at my nearest station and it is overwhelmingly African then I counted at another station farther away(significantly farther) and didnt find a single non-African I swear I am not racist just wondering why I cant find many if any at all of my own race in the game, is there a mod I can download to balance this?


Perfectly genuine, honest question and no one should ban you for it. This is an old issue and I suspect done on purpose.

There ARE other races around if you look long enough though.
Yeah, have a lot of conversations with different crew members. And it seems to 50% chance for black people and 50% for europeans/asians. Interesting fact: no matter the playthroughs Oberth's crew for 90% consist of africans.
And there is seem nothing in between, I meen I can't recall arabians in the game.
Minnie Dec 21, 2023 @ 6:36am 
Troposphere V.
Cythal Dec 21, 2023 @ 7:12am 
This again? I thought we have talked about this so many times. Including mini skirts.
=STP= Isegrim Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:14am 
Now this has also to do how the racial division did look like on the colony ships.

OK races mix excluded.... that would get really complex pretty fast. ^^
Last edited by =STP= Isegrim; Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:16am
PeaceMaker Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:33am 
To be honest, having a buncha of purely white people, buncha purely asian and a bunch o purely black people in the far future indicates a VERY racist society because clearly the races don't go near eachother. They work together, but it looks to me like inter-marriage and mixed raced kids aren't allowed.

If the races were TRULY non racist, most everyone should be a tan-brown mixed raced colour (with a hint of Asian) with only a tiny percentage being of one race colour, like white or black.

So the X4 universe is actually hugely racist!

Sci fi games and movies/shows ALWAYS get the race thing wrong, but I guess in the case of a show like Star trek everyone would have to be mixed race and that would put white, black, asians completely out of an acting job!

Or just accept the future will still be racist (but no one says anything) which I think it most likely would be with exceptions.

I do think on these things, but clearly I'm in a minority.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:40am
¥aeko Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:43am 
In the future of the universe (in space), people would most likely all become white, due to the lack of "being in the sun all day" (unless you constantly bring up people from planets).

Skin color, after all, is an adaption to the circumstances of living, same goes for plants being green - this is solely the result of our suns light. (If it had a more blue light, our plants would be better off being red, etc. and a planet that has a red dwarf as a sun probably has blue leaves etc.)

And in fact, depending on where humans settle throughout the universe, we would over time evolve new colors too, if needed. (and over time may become something completely different from the humans we know.)
Last edited by ¥aeko; Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:49am
PeaceMaker Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by ¥aeko:
In the future of the universe, people would most likely all become white, due to the lack of "being in the sun all day" (unless you constantly bring up people from planets).

Skin color, after all, is an adaption to the circumstances of living, same goes for plants being green - this is solely the result of our suns light.

You make a fair point... I suppose I'm thinking from early to mid spacefaring when you'd get mostly distinct races, but from mid to late spacefaring, people's skin colour would become lighter and lighter until white, although you'd have grades of white (which we have even now). Would take a while though like a thousand years for everyone from dark skin to become white, I think.

Originally posted by ¥aeko:
And in fact, depending on where humans settle throughout the universe, we would over time evolve new colors too, if needed. (and over time may become something completely different from the humans we know.)

Agreed. Future humans on different distant planets would probably be some variations of colours.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; Dec 21, 2023 @ 8:51am
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