Why no XL Freighters?

[VeraelHasta]

I could really use some XL freighters. I would like to prepare goods for my station in xenon sector, but L freighters just don't have enough space and it is really annoying to calculate how many of them to bring and what they should bring.

How do you guys deal with this issue?

[conrado.lacerda]

What L freighters are you using?

[¥aeko]

Why calculate, just send them until everything you need is there?

When you send one, the missing amount will be updated etc.

[Pathogenic]

They could simply increase the cargo hold size of the current class of aux ships, and presto, XL freighters. Why they do not is a design design, of which I do not approve.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by conrado.lacerda:

What L freighters are you using?

Okinawas, they have 42k. I know there are slightly better Teladi ones (46k?) but the difference is too small.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by ¥aeko:

Why calculate, just send them until everything you need is there?

When you send one, the missing amount will be updated etc.

Yeah, but then I ned to prepare 5 Substrate freighters, 5 lattice, 5 carbide, 5 energy cells. This is a lot of clicking to fill them up and then unload. And I would have to do it repeadetly for each defensive station or wait hous for AI to bring stuff

[¥aeko]

Idea:

build a "storage station" in the xenon sector, and set a few Transporters to auto-trade with the wares.

Then fill the storage station with what you need, via repetitive orders.

Thats the "least effort" solution I could come up with, and I am using something similar for Family Zhin, which I just took from the Xenon. (I just built the stations for the wares that I need there, since it has all the ressources in it, but that most likely wont work in a xenon sector.)

[Sinius]

You can buy more Large traders or get a mod. I you don't mind a modded save.

[TheSuit]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

I could really use some XL freighters. I would like to prepare goods for my station in xenon sector, but L freighters just don't have enough space and it is really annoying to calculate how many of them to bring and what they should bring.

How do you guys deal with this issue?

This may not give you XL ships but will do what you need

https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/1142

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by TheSuit:

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

I could really use some XL freighters. I would like to prepare goods for my station in xenon sector, but L freighters just don't have enough space and it is really annoying to calculate how many of them to bring and what they should bring.

How do you guys deal with this issue?

This may not give you XL ships but will do what you need

https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/1142

Nah. I know you can increase the cargo with mods. But it feels just cheap. I don't want all of the ships to have bigger cargo - just an option to have a ship dedicated to providing support for station building. That is why I think there shoul;d be such a ship in XL category. Bad for trading, but good for big projects.

[TheSuit]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Originally posted by TheSuit:

This may not give you XL ships but will do what you need

https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/1142

Nah. I know you can increase the cargo with mods. But it feels just cheap. I don't want all of the ships to have bigger cargo - just an option to have a ship dedicated to providing support for station building. That is why I think there shoul;d be such a ship in XL category. Bad for trading, but good for big projects.

XL ships would be amazing for trading.
X4 uses price lock

So you use high demand goods and sell massive amount you make insane profits.

[Wraith]

I just use M trader

L trader are good for bulk transport but for building station you don’t need that

As M trader will bring enough resources to start the module building and then when that module is busy building they will bring the rest of the resources and it kinda just chains from there

[Tin Pony]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Okinawas, they have 42k. I know there are slightly better Teladi ones (46k?) but the difference is too small.

Pelican Sentinel is 51k.

[AkagiVoid]

VeraelHasta, another few problems with XL trading/cargo ships is U got pirates in the game and not just one pirate factions but about 3 I think it was(SCA, VIG, and FAF). >w>
So unless UR allies with em U could get UR cargo stolen. X3

XL ships are just SLOW, U would just use L or M ships 2 buy and sel mats with "repetitive orders" like ¥aeko said, dat way U just set it once and 4get it(And L or M ships are faster so Pirates have a mar harder time trying 2 capture em because they can simply BOOGY out). :P

[=STP= Isegrim]

You can try the PAR Carrier Zeus.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by AkagiVoid:

VeraelHasta, another few problems with XL trading/cargo ships is U got pirates in the game and not just one pirate factions but about 3 I think it was(SCA, VIG, and FAF). >w>
So unless UR allies with em U could get UR cargo stolen. X3

XL ships are just SLOW, U would just use L or M ships 2 buy and sel mats with "repetitive orders" like ¥aeko said, dat way U just set it once and 4get it(And L or M ships are faster so Pirates have a mar harder time trying 2 capture em because they can simply BOOGY out). :P

If XL freighters goal would be to provide materials for building in dangerous space, pirates are not an issue. It can be as slow as every Battleship. You load it up full of resources, assign some destroyers and frigates as defense and send them behind your fleet into Xenon space.

I guess I'm the only one boithered with this lol.