I captured an Asgard and now X4 is boring

[Famberlin]

I really tried on my return to X4(didn't get too far on first one) to have some fun with this game, story missions, fleet building, flying around and singlehandedly destroying K types with S ship(yes tideous, yet rewarding). But it all went to waste when I saw Agard and desided that I wanted it..

I already had Syn from story missions and couple Osakas from fly by boarding. I blocked Xenon in Tharkas Cascade XV with defence station and 3-4 hundred Laser Towers and basically mined Xenons for their tech(my best efforst at any mining to this day). All good and well, still having fun destroying stuff and nightmares trying to force stupid AI to automate mining and production(Terr of course, only because its just 3 ingredients) - yet failing miserably anyway.

Still some fun was left in the game and I had storymissions, terraforming way ahead of me. But it all ended in spectacular yet dissapointing fassion - stupid Terr fleet decided it can take over Tharkas Cascade XVII.

My first reaction was - well, thats cute.. Then my mind was captured by possibilities.. Fleet of Asgard, half a dosen Osakas and a hundred moskitoes headed to sector with at least 4 K's and one "I" - not many can survive those, especially led by AI, and I can take the spoils so to say.

And just as I thought - only Asgard was left in the system ready for the taking. I helped Asgard just enough for it to not be damaged, alowing K's to effordlesly wipe all Osakas and small fries, so in the end it was me with 8 L ships (Syn, 3 Osakas, 4 Behemoths) - what could be easier?

Well it took me over 5 hours of attempts to figure out that I need to position all osakas in 100 ish meters around "friendly" Asgard and Board all at once in order to overpower the opposition(it was half full), as "board and repeat untill they deplete manpower" appears to not work - I assume at some point they had only Expert marins on board and no amount of my fresh meat could overpower them.

Still eventually I was a prowd owner of Asgard and my short lived fun began! I modded it and went to wipe the rest of Tharka. It appears that you really don't need anything other than 1 XL and Seta for speed to wipe everything you see. Just load yourself with 300 laser towers agains small fry and use Seta for main gun reload.

System by system I wipe all and every Xenon from existance and its.. no fun? no challenge? I don't know, even though I'm not even half finished the campain it already seems pointless. I already captured second suisidal Asgard and cant even imagine force that can stop me at this point, even though my station building is amateur a best and economy is mostly based on selling what is left from my enemies.

So what next? do I just wipe the whole map? is there any fun left for a guy who is not really into station/economy building(especially with stupid AI) in this game?

[facciola007]

If you are killing everything, try this it should spice it up.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1705279348

[eMYNOCK]

nope.. you achieved everything there is for a guy that is not interessted in economy.
congatulations... you've technically beaten the game.

so... unless you magically develop the need to get involved in economy and empire building.. you have nothing left to do.

though.. do you want congatulations or condolences? thats important to know... i would have to adjust for either.

*and i case it slipped through.. that was sarcassm... the only form of humor thats left in my soul.

[PeaceMaker]

"And he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."

That's just the way it is, man. You keep winning, and you don't let up, eventually there will be nothing left to fight.

[Famberlin]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

nope.. you achieved everything there is for a guy that is not interessted in economy.
congatulations... you've technically beaten the game.

so... unless you magically develop the need to get involved in economy and empire building.. you have nothing left to do.

though.. do you want congatulations or condolences? thats important to know... i would have to adjust for either.

Honestly don't know, I'm looking for a reason to stay and struggling to find it, maybe I should start a war, still don't expect much from it - as far as I understand Xenon Def stations are the toughest in the game. Is multiverse a thing here? I didn't find much about it and how it plays.

[Famberlin]

Originally posted by facciola007:

If you are killing everything, try this it should spice it up.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1705279348

Thanks, will check it out

[eMYNOCK]

depends what you think multiverse/ventures are... but i'm certain you'll be disappointed by the only answer i can give.

because i can't give one.

[Famberlin]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

depends what you think multiverse/ventures are... but i'm certain you'll be disappointed by the only answer i can give.

because i can't give one.

I think I saw there was some kind of multiplayer game, yet not sure as didnt investigate much.

At the end it really is a feeling as if I finished the game, even though not much story-wise was completed. I keep remembering how it was with Freelancer, because it was the game that led me to X4 with nostalgia. It was similar yet different with a strict storyline and culmination at the end. So I asume I rushed throug it and didn't notice one here.

I will definitely be there if/when any DLCs or maybe continuation will be released, as so far the actual flight/fighting mechanics in space - is one of the best in this game for me personally.

[🎮 PalkoVvodets 🔑]

You will be surprised but its a sandbox. There is no something that is counted as "end", no title screen after "finish". Only player decides what is purpose of their playing.

[DarthMalak]

Here is something for fun..

Decided to rid the world of the paranid....

They didn't send in a single fighter when I went to wipe station after station from the map..

Nice game huh? Even though they had several shipyards/warfs left.. Not a single frigate was sent to try and stop me.. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

So it seems outside of the xenon there is nothing in the game once you have either an asgard, couple of syns, battleships or whatnot...

Appears the only thing NPC factions do is fight between themselves and mine and buy and sell.

So dissapointing..

[ArcticISAF]

I’d suggest thumbing through the mods. VRO May be good to shake up the combat. Increase xenon strength, add more connecting sectors, dynamic faction relations - whatever you can dream up that’d be interesting to you.

[🍁DooMAGE🍁]

Is this a game balancing issue?

[Pathogenic]

Asgard is stupidly OP, I much prefer it not exist in the game. At least in mods that I play (VRO) the Asgard beam of death is toned down and the ship is actually balanced. Star War Interworlds is also very well balanced, and there are no "I win" ships.

[fade7777]

Originally posted by Famberlin:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

nope.. you achieved everything there is for a guy that is not interessted in economy.
congatulations... you've technically beaten the game.

so... unless you magically develop the need to get involved in economy and empire building.. you have nothing left to do.

though.. do you want congatulations or condolences? thats important to know... i would have to adjust for either.

Honestly don't know, I'm looking for a reason to stay and struggling to find it, maybe I should start a war, still don't expect much from it - as far as I understand Xenon Def stations are the toughest in the game. Is multiverse a thing here? I didn't find much about it and how it plays.

yeah multiverse is a thing ... there a was a beta a few months back for MTS(Multiverse Team seasons) .. and people can send pretty strong pvp styled hostile ships into your galaxy to kill you and your assets .. also some cool unique rewards if you do well. far more challenging then fighting regular vanilla ships.

some people were sending through extremely pimped out ships thru (full set of exceptional mods + 5 star Pilots+crew on strong ships with unique paintjobs). it was quite fun TBH =).

[DarthMalak]

Asgard may be OP (disagree on that as you play the way you want, you don't want an asgard, don't build it or capture it)...

Most of the times I've found the asgard doesn't even use any of it large turrents when engaging stations.. It just sits and wait there for its main cannon to recharge and only uses that.. Tried every combo of attack all enemies, cap ships, my enemy etc..

Btw the former goes for when not controlling the asgard yourself in direct control.

1 or 2 Syn demolish a station 5x faster than an asgard does.. Is the syn OP too? It only becomes OP in some cases because of the AI sillyness.. If they fix that things will change.

[eMYNOCK]

@Famberlin
This is your Topic and my first Reply seems to have caught the attention of some wannabe Moderator with superieur morals.

I do hope that my reply hasn't offended you but gave you ideas what else there is to do beside combat.