deployable turrets are op

[HunterAnubis]

devs do really need to look at price/effectivness of these
one set of turrets (fighter worth) can maintain a gate trafic destroying anything as it flyes by

Wouldnt it be better resource wise if the turret was stronger more expensive and sturdier then having 100 super cheap turrets deployed?

I mean it looks good when 100 sentrys fire at the same time but it makes no sonce and neither it does money wise

why even buy fighters when you can load corvete frig or any med class with 100 of these and drop them to instantly clear the airspace of small ships. If you deploy few houndrets you can even melt capitals on the gates

[Wraith]

Cheese tactic will be cheese tactic

Not sure how the dev can really balance laser tower without limiting how much you can deploy in a single area

Plus all the angry people who were relying on their laser tower cheese to keep xenon away lol

[zpc]

What Wraith said - for non-combat players laser tower spam is the only way to win fights. Always has been like this in the X series. (there were even ring of fire mods[forum.egosoft.com] to perfect the cheesing).

Just do it like I do - don't use them =)

[HunterAnubis]

Why not just make it more logical
Deploy large defense platform that takes a minute or two to set up has decent HP and firepower why spam dozens of tiny infinite powered satelites that AI cant even shoot half of the time

[Stryderunknown]

Something a modder could try is making that every time a laser tower is fired it takes damage (to visually show how many shots are left), so that after 4-5 firings it destroys itself.

Rather than edit the vanilla laser, it would make sense to test it as a different laser (a delta laser)

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by HunterAnubis:

devs do really need to look at price/effectivness of these
one set of turrets (fighter worth) can maintain a gate trafic destroying anything as it flyes by

Wouldnt it be better resource wise if the turret was stronger more expensive and sturdier then having 100 super cheap turrets deployed?

I mean it looks good when 100 sentrys fire at the same time but it makes no sonce and neither it does money wise

why even buy fighters when you can load corvete frig or any med class with 100 of these and drop them to instantly clear the airspace of small ships. If you deploy few houndrets you can even melt capitals on the gates

I hope you don't mean those Laser Towers.

As a lonely odd-jobbing Merc meeting tougher Xenon, those Towers have saved me, especially when I don't have much cash (which is often).

It's literally the only way to survive as a Solo, not wanting to have a mega-empire with fleets run.

So while it's fine for you, I implore the Devs not to mess about with this.

[Damaged Dork]

Those Laser Towers is must had for slow non combat ship, otherwise non combat ship had no chance winning vs combat ship, more or less. Non combat ship had been heavy nerfed, because there is no jumpdrive, they nerfed travel Mode, that if any ship shooting at ship using travel Mode, it's just stop, (when game first come out, you can start flee and using travel mode even under heavy fire from combat ship, but now not any more for ever since first patch for this game, or couple patch later, I'm not sure when or what version of patch they nerfed travel mode)

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I set the '*' Key to deploy lasertower, fly a slow circle about 1km from the gate entrance and fart out 50 towers.... cheaper and faster than building a defence station.
Thing is they dont repair themselves and wont stop a K. Great to get rid of those pesky M and Ns.
Xenon ships are OP as hell* so I dont mind a bit of cheese to balance it

*M/N dodge almost everything and Ks large turrets are stupidly overpowered and being turrets dont need to face the target like destroyers, which it eats because AI pilots are too thick to just sit facing the K and pound it, insisting on trying to joust like they are in a fighter and so almost never actually line up a shot

[Sticky Wicket]

Yeah the deployable turrets are OP, and I am glad; they are a new players best friend whilst learning the game. They are singularly the most useful thing you can buy and deploy to stem the tide of hordes of enemies spewing out of gates that would otherwise completely overrun everything.

Yes it's pure 100% cheese, but there isn't really any other option as far as I can see. If the game is going to by default have raging hordes of xenon and khaak throwing themselves at you from all directions pretty much from the get-go then you need some cheap and dirty way of dealing with it whilst you are building up forces and building up infrastructure.

[Gibbo]

I've never used them. Net worth over 20 billion. Got the Xenon trapped in a few sectors and now just use them to level up my fighter crew.

You don't need laser towers and what a pain in the arse it must be unloading all of them lol. Give me a carrier full of angry Teladi any day. There isn't a ship built that can survive a full compliment of fighters.

[don_dingo.be]

if you dont like it dont use it

[ArcticISAF]

Originally posted by Gibbo:

I've never used them. Net worth over 20 billion. Got the Xenon trapped in a few sectors and now just use them to level up my fighter crew.

You don't need laser towers and what a pain in the arse it must be unloading all of them lol. Give me a carrier full of angry Teladi any day. There isn't a ship built that can survive a full compliment of fighters.

Gibbo just uses the best deployable laser tower in the game for the gates - the Asgard lol.

But for real I think it’s ok there’s certain overpowered actions as it is single player, and as long as the ai doesn’t set it on you it’s probably ok (as some people complained about for the ventures for good reason lol). As long as it’s in that optional-not in usual actions category. Probably could be balanced to have a lifetime on it like an hour or two but ah well.

Edit: Oh yeah I don’t use laser tower spam at all. Only my ships have them as emergency defence to drop if they’re under attack/in danger.

[Cyrill Echo]

Lots of things can be considered op in this game. It doesnt matter, its a single player experience its up to you if you want to use them or not.

[Gibbo]

Originally posted by ArcticISAF:

Originally posted by Gibbo:

I've never used them. Net worth over 20 billion. Got the Xenon trapped in a few sectors and now just use them to level up my fighter crew.

You don't need laser towers and what a pain in the arse it must be unloading all of them lol. Give me a carrier full of angry Teladi any day. There isn't a ship built that can survive a full compliment of fighters.

Gibbo just uses the best deployable laser tower in the game for the gates - the Asgard lol

If there'[s an 'issue' then throw more gun at it that's my motto. Well I've got quite a few mottos lately. All of them involve extreme violence lmao.

ANd yes loads of elements in this game can be considered overpowered. I just watched about 40 chimeras with thermals turn a P into a snowball lmfao. Never stood a chance. Man I love those thermal disintegrator. It really is a cruel weapon. When you have a few dozen fighters all aiming for the same target it's like a bloody blizzard! Careful you don't get in the way as they'll have you too!

[Wenzilber]

Originally posted by Gibbo:

Originally posted by ArcticISAF:

Gibbo just uses the best deployable laser tower in the game for the gates - the Asgard lol

If there'[s an 'issue' then throw more gun at it that's my motto. Well I've got quite a few mottos lately. All of them involve extreme violence lmao.

ANd yes loads of elements in this game can be considered overpowered. I just watched about 40 chimeras with thermals turn a P into a snowball lmfao. Never stood a chance. Man I love those thermal disintegrator. It really is a cruel weapon. When you have a few dozen fighters all aiming for the same target it's like a bloody blizzard! Careful you don't get in the way as they'll have you too!

That sounds like a lot of fun! :D

[zpc]

Originally posted by Wenzilber:

Originally posted by Gibbo:

If there'[s an 'issue' then throw more gun at it that's my motto. Well I've got quite a few mottos lately. All of them involve extreme violence lmao.

ANd yes loads of elements in this game can be considered overpowered. I just watched about 40 chimeras with thermals turn a P into a snowball lmfao. Never stood a chance. Man I love those thermal disintegrator. It really is a cruel weapon. When you have a few dozen fighters all aiming for the same target it's like a bloody blizzard! Careful you don't get in the way as they'll have you too!

That sounds like a lot of fun! :D

Try the Dragon Raider Variant as well - they can mount the even more fiendish M size thermals