mining ship / stuck on searching ressources

[Idah]

Hello there,

i'm quite new and try to setup an auto miner but i'm lost with the AI.

So i try to setup an autominer in second contact (i've watched guides) and i dunno why it's simply not working, well tbh it work.. sometimes.

Here's what i can say about it :

- It's a drill mineral vanguard with full crew and 2.5 star captain.
- I setup it to mine silicon, and he fly by HUGE silicon asteroids, searchin for ressources..
- i've put ressources probes in the system, even an advanced satellite, just to try
- There's a trader that buy silicon in the area
- Sometimes, he mine a little, and then going on searching ressources again, the gap between searching and mining is around 20 minutes i think.

I'm really tryng to love this game, even considered to buy the dlc, but this kind of dumb Ai really demotivates me to keep going.... seeing him wandering around giant silicon asteroid, doing nothing...

If someone knows, thanks for your help. i've googled it but haven't really found anything expect the basics setup errors.

[Tommytools]

The resources the AI ships mine are not the same as the asteroids you see as a player. Resource probes are essential to get AI miners to work, they don't mine in sectors where there are no probes.

In this game there are significant differences between the AI in system (IS) and out of system (OOS). Miners don't work very well if you're close enough to watch them (or on board), unless you're flying it yourself you'll want to stay away from your miners, just let them get on with it.

[Idah]

That's interesting, thank you.

Maybe i should lay down my whip and let them work. must admit i was watching them a lot, curious of how the Ai perform the task.

[Tommytools]

Originally posted by Idah:

That's interesting, thank you.

Maybe i should lay down my whip and let them work. must admit i was watching them a lot, curious of how the Ai perform the task.

Poorly, most of the time... But better when OOS, mainly because the game simplifies the sector to make it "cheaper" (in system resources) to keep the simulation running.

You'll see them do really silly things if you watch them, in combat they're ok, usually, but when docking/undocking they might decide to fly through a station for example.

I define AI in computer games as Artificial Idiots, makes their shenanigans a lot more tolerable :P

[Sticky Wicket]

In my repeated experience as a fairly new player, there always seems to be problems when trying to mine sectors that have *low* resources.

Second contact does not have very high silicon. You would be better off mining silicon in Morning Star IV, Cardinals Redress or even Silent Witness I.

As someone else described it recently; you have to think in terms of the overall density of a resource. An ai miner will have problems if there isn't a good overall high density value.

If you really want to mine a low resource area than use a *repeat command* and target them to mine a specific area and *sell it* at a refinery or sector, but if you want to avoid a world of hurt then make it easy for them and mine a sector that has a good resource amount.

[Idah]

Originally posted by Geist:

Originally posted by Sticky Wicket:

In my repeated experience as a fairly new player, there always seems to be problems when trying to mine sectors that have *low* resources.

Second contact does not have very high silicon. You would be better off mining silicon in Morning Star IV, Cardinals Redress or even Silent Witness I.

As someone else described it recently; you have to think in terms of the overall density of a resource. An ai miner will have problems if there isn't a good overall high density value.

If you really want to mine a low resource area than use a *repeat command* and target them to mine a specific area and *sell it* at a refinery or sector, but if you want to avoid a world of hurt then make it easy for them and mine a sector that has a good resource amount.

This is important yes. The time they need to find and mine ressources depends heavily on density. Also as Tommy said if you watch them they get nervous and make mistakes ;-)

I'am at second contact VII, 2 star Silicon & Ore. And ice nearby .. as an old eve online player, it naturally attracts me :)

have to say that i struggle a little to understand the map infos.

Thanks again for your help

[Sticky Wicket]

Originally posted by Geist:

Originally posted by Sticky Wicket:

In my repeated experience as a fairly new player, there always seems to be problems when trying to mine sectors that have *low* resources.

Second contact does not have very high silicon. You would be better off mining silicon in Morning Star IV, Cardinals Redress or even Silent Witness I.

As someone else described it recently; you have to think in terms of the overall density of a resource. An ai miner will have problems if there isn't a good overall high density value.

If you really want to mine a low resource area than use a *repeat command* and target them to mine a specific area and *sell it* at a refinery or sector, but if you want to avoid a world of hurt then make it easy for them and mine a sector that has a good resource amount.

This is important yes. The time they need to find and mine ressources depends heavily on density. Also as Tommy said if you watch them they get nervous and make mistakes ;-)

It is true they work better when they are simply left alone to get on with it. No one likes to have someone breathing down their neck when they are trying to do something.

[Wraith]

If your watching your miner mine
Location is important

Certain sector have tons of dead asteroids and this nerf performance

[Sticky Wicket]

Originally posted by Idah:

Originally posted by Geist:

This is important yes. The time they need to find and mine ressources depends heavily on density. Also as Tommy said if you watch them they get nervous and make mistakes ;-)

I'am at second contact VII, 2 star Silicon & Ore. And ice nearby .. as an old eve online player, it naturally attracts me :)

have to say that i struggle a little to understand the map infos.

Thanks again for your help

The easiest way (I have found personally) to bring up resource info on each sector is to left mouse click it and press the info button.