X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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DrwHem Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:29am
tips on scrapping?
i have a scrap center in Avarice with 2 scrap processors and 1 terran refiner. my issue is that it takes my tugs so long to dop off scrap, that they all just drop the ♥♥♥♥ and leave the system because of the tide.
Im going to add 2 more processors but is there any other way to get them to drop their scrap faster as opposed to just flying in circles around my station?
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Pandorian Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:32am 
Separate the chain. Do your processing on site and ship the processed metal to Avarice where there's extra sunlight.
Humble Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:35am 
I suggest scrap station should be in where friendly with strong fleet support next to sector are enemies fighting ship left and right, like Hatikavh choice 1 or holy Vision or The void/Frontier Edge, depend on Xenon and Argon fighting over there, Family Zhin, Family Kritt, Zyarth's Dominion 1, Fire of Defeat, Tharka's Ravine XXIV, Ianamus Zura IV, Company Regard, Getsu Fune, Litany of Fury IX if Xenon didn't destroy that area, so go on. I think that is best place for scrap station.

I would avoid Avarice to set up due well, because of solar wave but I had not done those story plot, even I played hundred and hundred of hours, too busy create empire, little time on plot.
Last edited by Humble; Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:37am
blackphoenixx Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Pandorian:
Separate the chain. Do your processing on site and ship the processed metal to Avarice where there's extra sunlight.
Seconding this. With workforce you only need 6 ecell production to run a scrap processor full time, so it's not too terrible to just build them on site and ship the scrap metal over with an M miner or two.

I also went one step further and put the scrap recycling in Windfall III instead of Avarice.
The station in Avarice IV only has ecell production. With the short distance between the two a single Vulture Sentinel easily moves 200k ecells per hour if you slap a Tenacity mod on it so it doesn't idle a third of its time waiting for the tide to pass.

That way any ships delivering scrap metal or wanting to get parts from the recycling station don't need to care about the Tide or be outfitted with Tenacity mods. It's worked out very well imo.
SirProsik Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:50am 
Bright promise has 200% sunlight by the way. Right on the highway ring too.
Shavanna Apr 28, 2023 @ 1:32am 
I put my scrap factory in a fighting sector (true sight) but somehow, the tug wont find any scrap to work with. Has anyone an idea, how i can fix that?
Pandorian Apr 28, 2023 @ 1:37am 
Originally posted by Shavanna:
I put my scrap factory in a fighting sector (true sight) but somehow, the tug wont find any scrap to work with. Has anyone an idea, how i can fix that?

Since it's in True Sight, did you set up a blacklist that excluded True Sight from activities/trading due to it being a hazardous region?
Shavanna Apr 28, 2023 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Pandorian:
Originally posted by Shavanna:
I put my scrap factory in a fighting sector (true sight) but somehow, the tug wont find any scrap to work with. Has anyone an idea, how i can fix that?

Since it's in True Sight, did you set up a blacklist that excluded True Sight from activities/trading due to it being a hazardous region?
no, i didnt set up any blacklist in that regard. I just have one that limits the ships to activities in HOP space. They SHOULD have enough regular scrap from all the fighting going on there. Do those wrecks appear OOS? If not than maybe thats the culprit.
Pandorian Apr 28, 2023 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Shavanna:
no, i didnt set up any blacklist in that regard. I just have one that limits the ships to activities in HOP space. They SHOULD have enough regular scrap from all the fighting going on there. Do those wrecks appear OOS? If not than maybe thats the culprit.

Yeah wrecks will appear OOS. I'd suggest setting up a blacklist just for that station that way your Manticores don't start wandering off. They have such slow speed when tugging you really want to restrict them as much as possible. Once that is set up see if they start working.
Shavanna Apr 28, 2023 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by Pandorian:
Originally posted by Shavanna:
no, i didnt set up any blacklist in that regard. I just have one that limits the ships to activities in HOP space. They SHOULD have enough regular scrap from all the fighting going on there. Do those wrecks appear OOS? If not than maybe thats the culprit.

Yeah wrecks will appear OOS. I'd suggest setting up a blacklist just for that station that way your Manticores don't start wandering off. They have such slow speed when tugging you really want to restrict them as much as possible. Once that is set up see if they start working.
I will try that. My tug just wanders around searching for debris all the time for now. Lets see if that change helps it.
Shavanna Apr 28, 2023 @ 2:45am 
A little update: It still wont work. The ship always wanders around with 'no trades found in allowed sectors', even though some rather big fights happened.
Pandorian Apr 28, 2023 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by Shavanna:
A little update: It still wont work. The ship always wanders around with 'no trades found in allowed sectors', even though some rather big fights happened.

No trades found. Is it already dragging scrap around?
Shavanna Apr 28, 2023 @ 3:03am 
No, it just sits around.
Pandorian Apr 28, 2023 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by Shavanna:
No, it just sits around.

Hmmm. It's getting harder for me to think of things without seeing screenshots. Are you on the Egosoft Discord where it's easier to upload pictures? There are also other people on there that may be able to help.
Shavanna Apr 28, 2023 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Pandorian:
Originally posted by Shavanna:
No, it just sits around.

Hmmm. It's getting harder for me to think of things without seeing screenshots. Are you on the Egosoft Discord where it's easier to upload pictures? There are also other people on there that may be able to help.
I try it that way then. Still, thank you for trying so much to help me :D
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Date Posted: Apr 23, 2023 @ 9:29am
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