GPU usage (Google Translate to english)

[Blaster]

I have since 6.0. Update the problem with low fps and have also changed the graphics settings, but without success.
Until Nvidia tells me that it only uses about 30-40% GPU and about 30% CPU... but then the game is displayed to me with 25 fps and less.
Why isn't it taking advantage of my GPU? (other games use the GPU completely)
The problem has only existed since the 6.0 update.
PC specs:
Win10 Pro
i7 - 11700k
RTX 3090
64GB RAM
latest drivers (04/18/23)

Ich habe seit dem 6.0. Update das Problem mit niedrigen fps und habe auch an den Grafikeinstellungen rumgestellt, aber alles ohne Erfolg.
Bis mir Nvidia sagt das es gerade einmal ca 30-40% GPU und ca 30% CPU nutzt...mir das Spiel dann aber mit 25 fps und weniger angezeigt wird.
Warum nutzt es meine GPU nicht aus? (bei anderen Spielen wird die GPU komplett ausgenutzt)
Problem gibt es erst seit 6.0 Update.
PC Specs:
Win 10 Pro
i7 - 11700k
RTX 3090
64 GB Ram
neuste Treiber (18.04.23)

Jemand ne Idee / someone an idea?

[conrado.lacerda]

The game is much more dependent on the CPU than the GPU, even for its graphics.

- Try using upscaling, it can help even in the "ultra quality" setting.
- Try disabling some graphic options that rely on the CPU, specially the Volumetric Fog.
- Try changing your Windows power setting to "Balanced". I've had very positive results with this change, although I can't explain why.

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Google-Übersetzer ins Deutsche:

Das Spiel ist viel abhängiger von der CPU als von der GPU, selbst für seine Grafik.

- Versuchen Sie es mit Upscaling, es kann sogar in der Einstellung "Ultra-Qualität" helfen.
- Versuchen Sie, einige Grafikoptionen zu deaktivieren, die von der CPU abhängen, insbesondere den volumetrischen Nebel.
- Versuchen Sie, Ihre Windows-Energieeinstellung auf "Ausgeglichen" zu ändern. Ich hatte sehr positive Ergebnisse mit dieser Änderung, obwohl ich nicht erklären kann, warum.

[Blaster]

thx for the detail answer...but it changed nothing.

-I had upscaling in performence before and changed to all other options with no effect on the GPU usage.
-The fog is a thing and it changed mit CPU usage a bit...but it at its peak whit arround 35% usage of CPU...so no need to change it.
- power usage was balanced and now i test it on performance and it did not change anything

I don´t now what the update did to my setup...but the game don´t use the power my PC have to offer...and its only in this game...if i play other games and i crank up the performance my GPU work hard with over 90% usage...but in X4 after the patch its under 40% and CPU under 30% and its give me 40 FPS or lower and the FPS cap is at 180fps so...

[conrado.lacerda]

Try adding the command -nocputhrottle to the launch options in your game's Properties menu on Steam.

[Carda NL]

It sounds like a CPU bottleneck but ofcourse that's just speculation on my part. It does show 30% used but X4 only uses a couple of your cores and uses em for like very high numbers in %. A couple of cores doing nothing at all lowers your overall usage rate. Check all your cores seperately when the game is running.

[Blaster]

thx guys...but its not helping...

i added the command and nothing or to little changed that i can see it =)
it used 2 core of the CPU in high usage and the rest has less then 15% use.

its frustrating...i love all the X-series games...damn update. I hope there can fix the issues with a patch.

[conrado.lacerda]

I have an i7-9700K and the game uses all cores at 100%, but I don't know why my cpu works fine and other players' don't.

[Blaster]

Danke @Geist

aber ich versteh halt nicht, warum es vorher die 3090 ausgelastet hat und ich viel mehr fps hatte als jetzt...ich guck da manchmal fast nem Standbild zu bei 15-20fps und bei der 3090 sind die Lüfter aus, da die kaum was macht (die soll arbeiten und mir fps geben =))

Aber vielleicht machen die ja derzeit was mit Patches oder ähnliches, da es ja viele Themen mit Problemen nach 6.0 gibt.

@conrado I think you are a lucky guy with your CPU because i read a lot of threads that say the cpu is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ xD

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Geist:

X4 to my knowledge runs one simulation thread and one rendering thread and a few others for more minor tasks only. If all your cores are working at 100% then your CPU is working on something else and not only on the game.

How do I check this?

In the task manager, all other processes show to be using less than 1% cpu.

[Blaster]

Im Hauptmenü nutz er über 90% GPU ( 180fps) und ca 30% CPU aber im Spiel selbst dann nicht mehr...

The game use over 90% GPU in the mainmenu (180 fps) but in the game under 40% (20-30fps)

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Blaster:

@conrado I think you are a lucky guy with your CPU because i read a lot of threads that say the cpu is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ xD

The weird thing is that, until a few weeks ago, I used to have these same problems with the same cpu!

The only thing I changed was lowering the Windows power plan from "high performance" to "balanced" and the game instantly started running better. (I get 60fps vsync flying my ship, 35-40 in the map with a reasonably large economy.)

Maybe the PC Gods took pity on me...

[Blaster]

i tested in the last hours some stuff but i don´t get it right.
Test without mods have the same results for me.
I delete my savegame (start 6.0 update)
and in the new game its working kinda better...i have the same problemes like all the time but there are moments where my GPU is using 80-90% of its power and all is working fine and 2 min later it hates me again and give me 20-30 fps with 35% power usage...

I think it hates the 6.0 update =)

[Arsat]

Die CPU Bottleneck Diskussion ist so alt wie das X Universum.
Bei mir hat X4 3.0 und jetzt 6.0 schon immer alle Kerne benutzt und das bei zwei verschiedenen CPUs, aber eben nie voll.
Das kann man sich ja sehr genau anzeigen lassen. d.h. irgendwo ist ein fehler drin und sicher nicht beim Spieler.

Ich empfehle dir Egosoft direkt per Mail anzuschreiben. Hoffnung auf eine Lösung mach ich dir keine, aber wenn man es verbockt sollte man es auch auslöffeln und die Spieler hier können dir viele Tipps geben... aber eine Lösung ... siehe erster Satz...

[Нагризолич]

Check your core performance in task manager, two of them are 100% and are bottlenecking your fps

[Blaster]

yeah, but not all the time and only after 6.0 update thats the stupid thing^^
but thx for the help and i hope a patch can fix it sometime

[Sneaky_Koala]

Originally posted by Geist:

Originally posted by conrado.lacerda:

I have an i7-9700K and the game uses all cores at 100%, but I don't know why my cpu works fine and other players' don't.

X4 to my knowledge runs one simulation thread and one rendering thread and a few others for more minor tasks only. If all your cores are working at 100% then your CPU is working on something else and not only on the game.

Then your knowledge is wrong. i5 7600K @ 5Ghz - Linux. All 4 cores utilised. Jumps from 0%-1% on all four to 80-95% on all four while running. Unlike the console OS of windows I can actually see what is happening in real time - not just the usage but how each core is used.

There is a reason every supercomputer on the planet runs Linux (ok at least a dozen reasons but I digress).