X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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steve22_3 Apr 18, 2023 @ 4:09am
PC shutdown when AFK in pause menu
Hi all I've found my pc auto shutdown when afk (in the pause menu) for about 20mins.

Does anyone have the same issue?
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Donauwelle Apr 18, 2023 @ 4:24am 
Ok, so the obvious question would be: Are you using any Power-saving options from Windows?

In case your not a total Idiot (no harm intended), what about your CPU temps?
Currently in Mainmenu i get 200-240 FPS with my I7-12700KF maxing out one core, every game setting on max.... CPU goes from 35 celsius in Windows/idle to 70 celsius after like 10 mins mainmenu...

Might be the case that you overheat your CPU if too long in this screen.
However if X4s mainmenu makes your CPU overheat to a hardcrash....
Well..... shouldnt happen....

Not saying FPS cap for mainmenu wouldnt be a good thing...
Why would sm1 need 200 FPS in mainmenu?
Pls Cap to 60 Egosoft...
Everything else is wasting power....
Last edited by Donauwelle; Apr 18, 2023 @ 4:24am
steve22_3 Apr 18, 2023 @ 4:43am 
Thanks for replying.

Are you using any Power-saving options from Windows?
No, that's the first thing I checked.

So far I played the game on high and haven't experience a single crash.
Donauwelle Apr 18, 2023 @ 4:51am 
Originally posted by steve22_3:
Are you using any Power-saving options from Windows?
No, that's the first thing I checked.

I once had a customer who told me the screen he bought is broken, it turns black if he dont use it for a few minutes... guess what.... :steammocking:

You didnt give out much info like hardware specs or smth sooooo i start with the basic questions :P

You checked your CPU Temps?
Mic Apr 18, 2023 @ 6:27am 
I've noticed the screen turning black as well if I pause the game and walk away for 10-15 or so, never really timed it. I don't have any Windows Power saving settings turned on or for a screen saver set to kick in. Only noticed it really with X4.

I never really gave it much thought tho, until I saw this post.. Will pay more attn the next time it happens and see if its actually putting my monitor to sleep or what.
conrado.lacerda Apr 18, 2023 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
I once had a customer who told me the screen he bought is broken, it turns black if he dont use it for a few minutes... guess what.... :steammocking:

The old joke (probably true story):

"Customer service, how can I help you?"
"My computer won't turn on."
"Okay, let's go through the basics first. Is your computer plugged into a power outlet?"
"I don't know."
"How come, you don't know?"
"It's dark and I can't see behind the desk."
"Well, then, turn on a light and check!"
"I can't, there's a power outage right now."
XIII Apr 18, 2023 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
Currently in Mainmenu i get 200-240 FPS with my I7-12700KF maxing out one core, every game setting on max.... CPU goes from 35 celsius in Windows/idle to 70 celsius after like 10 mins mainmenu...

Bit OT but it sounds like your CPU cooling is massively underpowered. A single core being maxed shouldnt really make a CPU go hot.
rubyismycat Apr 18, 2023 @ 4:39pm 
Steve give us your pc specs p[lease then we will see if your rig is up to this game and from what you have said so far im guessing that it is not
Donauwelle Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by XIII:
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
Currently in Mainmenu i get 200-240 FPS with my I7-12700KF maxing out one core, every game setting on max.... CPU goes from 35 celsius in Windows/idle to 70 celsius after like 10 mins mainmenu...

Bit OT but it sounds like your CPU cooling is massively underpowered. A single core being maxed shouldnt really make a CPU go hot.

My cooler are setup for max silence...
CPU cooler BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4, +4 BE quiet Silent wings 4 for airflow...
Set them up to run below 50% as long as im below 75 celsius, using the Fanexpert from my Asus Strix z690-a board... works like a charm, makes no noise at all....

Lets as example say PlagueTale2 with RTX/DLSS3/All Settings Maxed/wqhd i get 90-120 FPS and stay 75-80celsuis with arround 70% Fanpower on CPU and 50% on casecooler during an 8 hour gaming session...
Wich is not bad at all. Seen way way worse for I7-12700KF...

If id tune them all to 100% sure id easy keep 60 celsius during RTX gaming...
However thats smth for Summertime.... if 40° celsius outside... thats when the fun part starts.
70° Celsius is not worry at all, as long as you have nuff reserves
Last edited by Donauwelle; Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:46am
XIII Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:23am 
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
My cooler are setup for max silence...
CPU cooler BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4, +4 BE quiet Silent wings 4 for airflow...
Set them up to run below 50% as long as im below 75 celsius, using the Fanexpert from my Asus Strix z690-a board... works like a charm, makes no noise at all....

Lets as example say PlagueTale2 with RTX/DLSS3/All Settings Maxed/wqhd i get 90-120 FPS and stay 75-80celsuis with arround 70% Fanpower on CPU and 50% on casecooler during an 8 hour gaming session...
Wich is not bad at all. Seen way way worse for I7-12700KF...

If id tune them all to 100% sure id easy keep 60 celsius during RTX gaming...
However thats smth for Summertime.... if 40° celsius outside... thats when the fun part starts.
70° Celsius is not worry at all, as long as you have nuff reserves

I see. Sure its nothing to worry about, its just indicating that you cant use your CPU to its full potential, because you dont got sufficient cooling for that. The CPU will just throttle down when it gets to hot, and the boost speed wont be acchieved.

If you cant even run one core at maximum load for extended times, then most of its power is wasted. Couldve bought a much cheaper CPU for the same effect.
Was curious, because this is pretty common, a lot of people buy really powerfull CPUs and cant actually cool them.

But yeah, CPUs these days dont really get heat damage, they just clock down. Run slower but no risk. If you got the cash, maybe you should look into those $100 AIO water colors (like liquid freezer) they sell these days, they are better cooling and quieter than fans.

Lets as example say PlagueTale2 with RTX/DLSS3/All Settings Maxed/wqhd i get 90-120 FPS

^Just a note about that, DLSS3 means your fps is actually half of what it indicates. So in reality, you got 45-60fps with smoothing activated. PlagueTale 2 is apparently horribly optimized tho.
DLSS3 is really something more appropriate for lower end GPUs, where you just cant get the framerate normally.
Last edited by XIII; Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:24am
Donauwelle Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:49am 
Yeah dont worry about me, as i said my cooler run low cuz i set them to do so.
My CPU is far from throtteling or Bottlenecking due to heat as i have plenty of reserves.

And PT2 serves as good example cuz its known as hardware hole...
Besides considering only the 40er Gen supports DLSS3 im not sure if you can talk about lower end :steamfaceplam:
Im using Asus Strix 4070Ti (80-90 prettymuch stupid if you play in WQHD)
Weak is relative... Im easiely outperforming my pals 3080...
Atleast in WQHD, if id play 4k id got myself a 4080 but... meh.... why bother...
Dont think the reduced Bandwith from the 70ti can be called lower end if it still outperforms the 3080 cards for same price....

Whole System reaches 24.500 Points in 3DMark Timespy wich sets me somewhere at the top 5% of off alltime tests done...
And again with my plenty of reserves ive no problem cooling this rig at all...

Srsly before i slam a dirty cheap 100 bucks AIO on my CPU id rather go full Noctua or well.... spend some proppa cash for proppa AIO....
Didnt done that cuz i dont need to... not even close...
Last edited by Donauwelle; Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:55am
XIII Apr 19, 2023 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
Yeah dont worry about me, as i said my cooler run low cuz i set them to do so.
My CPU is far from throtteling or Bottlenecking due to heat as i have plenty of reserves.

And PT2 serves as good example cuz its known as hardware hole...
Besides considering only the 40er Gen supports DLSS3 im not sure if you can talk about lower end :steamfaceplam:
Im using Asus Strix 4070Ti (80-90 prettymuch stupid if you play in WQHD)
Weak is relative... Im easiely outperforming my pals 3080...
Atleast in WQHD, if id play 4k id got myself a 4080 but... meh.... why bother...

Whole System reaches 24.500 Points in 3DMark Timespy wich sets me somewhere at the top 5% of off time tests done...
And again with my plenty of reserves ive no problem cooling this rig at all...

Srsly before i slam a dirty cheap 100 bucks AIO on my CPU id rather go full Noctua or well.... spend some proppa cash for proppa AIO....
Didnt done that cuz i dont need to... not even close...

I mean you do you, its your system. I was just curious.

But no, you clearly dont have reserves if you cant keep a single core below 70 degrees. That it happens after 10 minutes shows that the cooler gets saturated.

You could buy the best hardware in the world, but it doesnt help much if you cant cool it. How much heat you can transport away determines how hard it can work.

The elitism about the "dirt cheap AIO" is silly though. Youve just tried to convince me that your even cheaper fan cooler is enough for the CPU, when its clearly insufficient. And any noob can buy expensive hardware, but its an actual skill to build a good system.
Last edited by XIII; Apr 19, 2023 @ 2:02am
Donauwelle Apr 19, 2023 @ 2:10am 
Mhh i guess thats smth about personal prefrences...
Id rather trust a solid conventional BeQuiet for 80 Bucks, then a AIO for 100....

TBH the 10 mins been a quick guess, its not like i done testing in Mainmenu with a timer/performance check, took a dump/made coffe, returned, noticed 70° CUPU+Fan on Low (-50%) thats fine, thats cool...
As i said no bottlenecks and throtteling during Benchmarks/RTX gaming, no Temp probs either....
8 Hrs RTX gaming and my temp is smwh arround 80° + CPU Fan on 75%....
Case cooling never more then 50%

Your "on paper" right with one core heating up that much beeing suspicious, however thats on "modern" Cpus like my I7-12700KF prettymuch normal if you stick to aircooling.
AMD user are currently joking stuff like "90 is the new 70"....

Originally posted by XIII:
But no, you clearly dont have reserves if you cant keep a single core below 70 degrees. That it happens after 10 minutes shows that the cooler gets saturated.

As i said a few times....
I set up my cooler the way they work now.
I have reserves because i can turn my CPU fan from 50% to 100% ya know -.-
Maybe its the usuall language problem in steamforums....
Or you didnt read propperly...

May i Ask wich CPU/cooling you use if its so much better?
Last edited by Donauwelle; Apr 19, 2023 @ 2:20am
XIII Apr 19, 2023 @ 2:34am 
Originally posted by Donauwelle:
Mhh i guess thats smth about personal prefrences...
Id rather trust a solid conventional BeQuiet for 80 Bucks, then a AIO for 100....

TBH the 10 mins been a quick guess, its not like i done testing in Mainmenu with a timer/performance check, took a dump/made coffe, returned, noticed 70° CUPU+Fan on Low (-50%) thats fine, thats cool...
As i said no bottlenecks and throtteling during Benchmarks/RTX gaming, no Temp probs either....
8 Hrs RTX gaming and my temp is smwh arround 80° + CPU Fan on 75%....
Case cooling never more then 50%

Your "on paper" right with one core heating up that much beeing suspicious, however thats on "modern" Cpus like my I7-12700KF prettymuch normal if you stick to aircooling.
AMD user are currently joking stuff like "90 is the new 70"....

Originally posted by XIII:
But no, you clearly dont have reserves if you cant keep a single core below 70 degrees. That it happens after 10 minutes shows that the cooler gets saturated.

As i said a few times....
I set up my cooler the way they work now.
I have reserves because i can turn my CPU fan from 50% to 100% ya know -.-
Maybe its the usuall language problem in steamforums....
Or you didnt read propperly...

May i Ask wich CPU/cooling you use if its so much better?

Eh, youre thinking way too much about what im trying to say.

Modern CPUs slow down before they hit the thermal throttling limit, thats why "boost clocks" exist. Theyre also not just looking at "CPU temp" but have many different sensors all over the chip.
Modern high end CPUs, which includes 12700K, run too hot at optimal speed for pretty much any air cooler.

Its pretty much that simple. You gotta put thought and research into how to use high end CPUs in your built, otherwise theyre always performing sub-optimal. In the way you couldve bought a cheaper CPU and get the same result.
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