How do I set station to buy materials using only my traders?

[Wrektem]

Rather than having supplies delivered to a station, I'd like my own ships to supply the station. I can't figure out the right command.

If I set up a global rule to "trade self," it makes sense that my fill shortages/traders would sell to my station and that I wouldn't buy from others. However, I don't think my traders would prioritize my own stations. Fill shortages has its own problems, in that it will sink money into other factions when not prioritizing my stations. If I set fill shortage traders a supply blacklist to self only, then how will they buy the supplies?

The only way I can see doing this is a very tedious repeat order to numerous stations. If I have to, I have to, but I feel like there has to be an easier way.

[ZeroAffex]

If you add wares to your station you don't produce but rather want your traders to search out to find and bring back to sell or even use for making new wares, all you have to do is set the wares you want to buy/sell within your station's logistical overview.

Then click on a trader, then right click the station and 'assign to trade for commander' then pick Alpha through Kappa (doesn't matter which) to assign them to and you're all set. So long as the station has a manager, they will seek out trades for you.

Be aware that dropping satellites around stations you want to buy from really helps! Goes for ones you wish to sell to as well. It actively transmits live data from that station to your faction at all times rather than only having data the last time you or your trader visited it. So make sure to be aware of this.

You can also buy a 'trade agreement' from a favorable faction for around 10million that will give you data for traders just for that faction if you want down the road. For now, I'd just focus on dropping satellites everywhere.

Lastly, if you want only your traders to seek out those wares for your station, you will need to go to Global Orders and create a new trade order that is set to be only your faction and not to buy from anyone else but your faction. Save it then go back to your station, then on each ware, go to the Sell Settings and uncheck the box that is set to 'station trade default'--then insert your newly made trade order to only buy from your ships. And you're all set. Conversely, you can make trade orders to sell to everyone but your own which can also be helpful sometimes.

Hopefully this clears things up for you. Let us know if you still need help.

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Wrektem:

Rather than having supplies delivered to a station, I'd like my own ships to supply the station. I can't figure out the right command.

If I set up a global rule to "trade self," it makes sense that my fill shortages/traders would sell to my station and that I wouldn't buy from others. However, I don't think my traders would prioritize my own stations. Fill shortages has its own problems, in that it will sink money into other factions when not prioritizing my stations. If I set fill shortage traders a supply blacklist to self only, then how will they buy the supplies?

The only way I can see doing this is a very tedious repeat order to numerous stations. If I have to, I have to, but I feel like there has to be an easier way.

You could set up a trade station buying the required wares and which in turn sells energy cells or something else to get the money, and then your traders will have a place to stock up. If you set this trade station near your other stations, you don't even need to use the "fill shortages" behavior (which require lvl 2 captains), just assign the ships to the trade station.

[Toshis8]

I wonder, is it possible to set up station this way:

Take raw resources only from my miners, BUT if for whatever reason stockpile drops too low, then also accept npc miners as swell, but only until certain threshold.

[Wrektem]

Originally posted by Toshis8:

I wonder, is it possible to set up station this way:

Take raw resources only from my miners, BUT if for whatever reason stockpile drops too low, then also accept npc miners as swell, but only until certain threshold.

Yes. Go to Logistics Overview -> Left Click Ore/Silicon/Ice -> Uncheck "Automatic Buy Amount" -> Select Quantity to "Buy up to."

I set my safety supply to about 2 hrs the current production. So if 4800 methane/hr is consumed, I set the buy quantity to 9600. Unless your station is starved its also a good idea to cap the price. Being at low inventory with automatic pricing means traders are selling at the highest price, even if there is enough supply to go around at lower prices.

[Wrektem]

Originally posted by ZeroAffex:

If you add wares to your station you don't produce but rather want your traders to search out to find and bring back to sell or even use for making new wares, all you have to do is set the wares you want to buy/sell within your station's logistical overview.

Then click on a trader, then right click the station and 'assign to trade for commander' then pick Alpha through Kappa (doesn't matter which) to assign them to and you're all set. So long as the station has a manager, they will seek out trades for you.

Be aware that dropping satellites around stations you want to buy from really helps! Goes for ones you wish to sell to as well. It actively transmits live data from that station to your faction at all times rather than only having data the last time you or your trader visited it. So make sure to be aware of this.

You can also buy a 'trade agreement' from a favorable faction for around 10million that will give you data for traders just for that faction if you want down the road. For now, I'd just focus on dropping satellites everywhere.

Lastly, if you want only your traders to seek out those wares for your station, you will need to go to Global Orders and create a new trade order that is set to be only your faction and not to buy from anyone else but your faction. Save it then go back to your station, then on each ware, go to the Sell Settings and uncheck the box that is set to 'station trade default'--then insert your newly made trade order to only buy from your ships. And you're all set. Conversely, you can make trade orders to sell to everyone but your own which can also be helpful sometimes.

Hopefully this clears things up for you. Let us know if you still need help.

Oh dear, maybe I'm over complicating this. So if I set a ware to "trade with self only," The station manager will still send it's own traders out to buy the ware? Testing this soon!

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Wrektem:

Originally posted by ZeroAffex:

If you add wares to your station you don't produce but rather want your traders to search out to find and bring back to sell or even use for making new wares, all you have to do is set the wares you want to buy/sell within your station's logistical overview.

Then click on a trader, then right click the station and 'assign to trade for commander' then pick Alpha through Kappa (doesn't matter which) to assign them to and you're all set. So long as the station has a manager, they will seek out trades for you.

Be aware that dropping satellites around stations you want to buy from really helps! Goes for ones you wish to sell to as well. It actively transmits live data from that station to your faction at all times rather than only having data the last time you or your trader visited it. So make sure to be aware of this.

You can also buy a 'trade agreement' from a favorable faction for around 10million that will give you data for traders just for that faction if you want down the road. For now, I'd just focus on dropping satellites everywhere.

Lastly, if you want only your traders to seek out those wares for your station, you will need to go to Global Orders and create a new trade order that is set to be only your faction and not to buy from anyone else but your faction. Save it then go back to your station, then on each ware, go to the Sell Settings and uncheck the box that is set to 'station trade default'--then insert your newly made trade order to only buy from your ships. And you're all set. Conversely, you can make trade orders to sell to everyone but your own which can also be helpful sometimes.

Hopefully this clears things up for you. Let us know if you still need help.

Oh dear, maybe I'm over complicating this. So if I set a ware to "trade with self only," The station manager will still send it's own traders out to buy the ware? Testing this soon!

Only from your own stations and ships. So, it's possible if you also set a trading fleet with the "fill shortages" behavior.

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Toshis8:

I wonder, is it possible to set up station this way:

Take raw resources only from my miners, BUT if for whatever reason stockpile drops too low, then also accept npc miners as swell, but only until certain threshold.

The autoprice naturally has this effect: if the stock is too low, then the price will go up and more faction ships will sell the pertinent ware to you; if the stock is high enough, there's not enough profit and so faction traders will stay away and only your assigned ships will supply the station. However, if you do not suplly enough by yourself, then the cost of buying from factions will likely tank you profits.

[Wrektem]

Originally posted by conrado.lacerda:

Originally posted by Wrektem:

Oh dear, maybe I'm over complicating this. So if I set a ware to "trade with self only," The station manager will still send it's own traders out to buy the ware? Testing this soon!

Only from your own stations and ships. So, it's possible if you also set a trading fleet with the "fill shortages" behavior.

Confirmed my idea doesn't work. I just set station wares to "self only" and the station traders halted buying.

I'm afraid the problem with fill shortages will be similar. There isn't a trade rule to get fill shortage buying supplies from NPCs to supply my stations exclusively.

[blackphoenixx]

What's wrong with simply assigning a trade ship to trade for the station? Range?

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Wrektem:

Originally posted by conrado.lacerda:

Only from your own stations and ships. So, it's possible if you also set a trading fleet with the "fill shortages" behavior.

Confirmed my idea doesn't work. I just set station wares to "self only" and the station traders halted buying.

I'm afraid the problem with fill shortages will be similar. There isn't a trade rule to get fill shortage buying supplies from NPCs to supply my stations exclusively.

No, there isn't, but you can circumvent this by setting you station to buy at maximum price. So, even if your ship ends up selling its cargo to some other station, the profit should be worthwhile.

Actually, you can set your trade station to buy from anyone and only sell to you, but this requires you to set it ware-by-ware in the station's logical overview. But note that this station will need some form of revenue (e.g. install some solar panels to sell the energy), otherwise it will require constant money transfers. (I forgot about this option because it's something I never do... :P)

[Vector]

Your Problem can be solved with a blacklist (only trade with yourself). You can activate it in the logical view of the Station at the buy or sell window of the product.

Edit: It works perfect if you have your own trading station.

[Wrektem]

Originally posted by Vector:

Your Problem can be solved with a blacklist (only trade with yourself). You can activate it in the logical view of the Station at the buy or sell window of the product.

Edit: It works perfect if you have your own trading station.

My traders will not buy from other stations if there is a blacklist, unless there is a way to set up 1: buy from NPC or Me, 2: sell only to me.

Yes. With a trade station it will work, and I've set a few up before. This game I thought that it seems like a simple request that I shouldn't have to build extra stations. figured I was missing something.

[Wrektem]

Originally posted by blackphoenixx:

What's wrong with simply assigning a trade ship to trade for the station? Range?

The traders are working fine. The thing is, I only want my trader to buy from NPC stations and I don't want NPC stations to deliver to me.

Its just a way to maximize profits. From a simulation perspective its pretty cheese because there's no upkeep for owned ships or travel.

[conrado.lacerda]

Originally posted by Wrektem:

Originally posted by blackphoenixx:

What's wrong with simply assigning a trade ship to trade for the station? Range?

The traders are working fine. The thing is, I only want my trader to buy from NPC stations and I don't want NPC stations to deliver to me.

Its just a way to maximize profits. From a simulation perspective its pretty cheese because there's no upkeep for owned ships or travel.

"I don't want NPC stations to deliver to me."

Why? It has the exact same effect as your ship buying from a npc station...

Also, as I've already explained in a previous comment, you can set a station to buy from anyone but sell only to you if you use a trade rule ware-by-ware in the station's logical overview. Do you even read the replies to your request?

[Maxipatam]

Originally posted by conrado.lacerda:

Originally posted by Wrektem:

The traders are working fine. The thing is, I only want my trader to buy from NPC stations and I don't want NPC stations to deliver to me.

Its just a way to maximize profits. From a simulation perspective its pretty cheese because there's no upkeep for owned ships or travel.

"I don't want NPC stations to deliver to me."

Why? It has the exact same effect as your ship buying from a npc station...

Also, as I've already explained in a previous comment, you can set a station to buy from anyone but sell only to you if you use a trade rule ware-by-ware in the station's logical overview. Do you even read the replies to your request?

Why?)
It`s simple (exemple):
My stantion needs Quantum Tube to produse Advanced Electronics
I set purchase price 1000 for exemple.
BUT:
I whant ONLY my stantion trader buys tubes for 1k OR LESS and DO NOT WHANT other fractions filled my storage with tubes 1000 each

Have same problem didn't find yet solution(