Constant "unauthorized kill" notifications are killing it for me

[hooch]

The save I'm currently playing is quite a few days in using SETA and somewhere along the line MIN became hostile with me.

Since then, it's been nothing but a constant stream of "unauthorized kill" notifications. I can't even see where these are happening and there's no sign of fighting anywhere, nor are my ships/stations engaging anything.

It's so relentless that I can hardly see anything else in the notification window and the constant ping is driving me insane. They come in increments of a half-second sometimes.

Short of turning the sound/notifications off, is there any way to fix this? Maybe some hidden "declare war" mechanic that turns "unauthorized kills" into "authorized"? Anything that doesn't involve wiping them off the map?

[mmmcheesywaffles]

Stop using SETA and deal with the problem. All SETA does is speed up ALL the game. Leave problems unresolved and they will get worse.

Evidently you are letting some of your ships shoot at friendlies. Most likely your ships are hitting civilians or stations when they are shooting back at pirates

[hooch]

引用自 mmmcheesywaffles：

Stop using SETA and deal with the problem. All SETA does is speed up ALL the game. Leave problems unresolved and they will get worse.

Evidently you are letting some of your ships shoot at friendlies. Most likely your ships are hitting civilians or stations when they are shooting back at pirates

The problem is, there's no identifiable problem. I have MIN on a blacklist to avoid and on the fire list as "defensive". I'm built up in between the Argon and Split (Heretic's End) so they shouldn't even be coming near me. I pulled every ship I have except my traders (which are unarmed bc I'm cheap) and I'm still getting the notifications.

Option 4 is waiting for this Asgard to finish and just deleting them :)

[eMYNOCK]

MIN, Ministry of Finances, are the de facto Military and Police Force throughout all of Teladi Space.

You are better off doing what waffles has suggested, solve the cause of these unauthorized kille or you'll soon face TEL and their Allies as well.

In addition, because MIN is on neutral Terms with most other Factions they will indefinitely try to rebuild their few Stations... you can not "delete" them.

[cobra188]

bonjour
voila j'avais deja expliqué la probleme il y a longtemp, c'est un probleme de notification ou message qui n'est pas complet , cela m'est arrivé voila ce qui se passe , si vos navires traverse un secteur detenu par une faction amie comme MIN et qu'il riposte a une attaque d'une faction qui et enemie avec vous mais amie avec MIN ,MIN vous enlève des point de reputation . moi j'avais un tout petit MOD qui modifiais le message en rajoutant une sortie dans le journal et dans un fichier texte qui indiquais le secteur ou cela se produisais et le commandant de la station qui était a l'origine du message ,dommage que les DEVS n'on pas penser a patcher le message pour que l'on sache de ou sa provient? . le seul moyen c'est de observer vos navires qui se font attaquer dans le secteurs amis.

[hooch]

引用自 eMYNOCK：

MIN, Ministry of Finances, are the de facto Military and Police Force throughout all of Teladi Space.

You are better off doing what waffles has suggested, solve the cause of these unauthorized kille or you'll soon face TEL and their Allies as well.

In addition, because MIN is on neutral Terms with most other Factions they will indefinitely try to rebuild their few Stations... you can not "delete" them.

To be honest, after 550hrs in X4 and buying every DLC... This is likely the end for me, unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, I love problem solving, but this is just an unnecessary headache imo.

I got my money's worth. It's a good space trucker / manufacturing game, but needs a little more in the "space empire" field. Some kind of diplomacy system would have gone a long way, even if it was just a "reputation broker" that cost a lot to use and could only be found in bars or something like that. I would have gladly paid 100-million to zero out my rep with MIN.

[Sola Di Ryuvia]

引用自 eMYNOCK：

MIN, Ministry of Finances, are the de facto Military and Police Force throughout all of Teladi Space.

You are better off doing what waffles has suggested, solve the cause of these unauthorized kille or you'll soon face TEL and their Allies as well.

In addition, because MIN is on neutral Terms with most other Factions they will indefinitely try to rebuild their few Stations... you can not "delete" them.

seems like friendly fire is an issue that still needs to be fixed on the Egosoft side then if its happening still and people are setting everything correct to defensive only. Should add in real diplomacy with diplomats to increase standing slowly and try to help with things like this, or simply put add in the "sorry for the misfire" like in x3. I remember this being brought up before a long time ago and if it isn't solved still there it is 100% not the player fault but egosoft.

[trooperrob]

because min can be a pain, I set up a small station to provide a min station (shipyard?) with goods. This raises the reputation over time, and prevents getting into any legal issues with borrowing ships withing their regions. They don't have a lot of stations, but Teladi is good to start due to lower trading inhibitions, so it is one of the early tasks in my empires.
I think the sector is well suited to an engine part factory or something similar.

[Minerva]

Part of the problem is that the logs give you no info on where it happened, what ship did it, or what ship was killed.

[Core]

引用自 hooch：

引用自 eMYNOCK：

MIN, Ministry of Finances, are the de facto Military and Police Force throughout all of Teladi Space.

You are better off doing what waffles has suggested, solve the cause of these unauthorized kille or you'll soon face TEL and their Allies as well.

In addition, because MIN is on neutral Terms with most other Factions they will indefinitely try to rebuild their few Stations... you can not "delete" them.

To be honest, after 550hrs in X4 and buying every DLC... This is likely the end for me, unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, I love problem solving, but this is just an unnecessary headache imo.

I got my money's worth. It's a good space trucker / manufacturing game, but needs a little more in the "space empire" field. Some kind of diplomacy system would have gone a long way, even if it was just a "reputation broker" that cost a lot to use and could only be found in bars or something like that. I would have gladly paid 100-million to zero out my rep with MIN.

There's a mod with exactly that name... "Reputation broker"
I have no idea how you people play X without mods. It would be such a pain and much less fun.

[Minerva]

I'd rather fix the problem if I can. Unfortunately, I can't even *find* the problem.

Edit: I never play X games unmodded. There's just usually too much broken/annoying stuff.

I ran a quick search for that mod on Nexus and the Steam workshop, but found nothing. You have a link?

[Knottypine]

Possibly this one:
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/1054

[vincentf563]

so the message is so fast you cant read what sector the UA kills are happening in? Sorry if thats a dumb question. I mean when you take it off SETA

[Minerva]

here's a snip of one of the log entries:

https://ibb.co/w7Jhnt7

Pretty much the only thing it tells me is that something killed something somewhere and I lost reputation with Provinces Adrift (Boron)

[trooperrob]

there are a lot of pirates there, do you have attack as a response?
if you don't scan them first...

[Minerva]

Nope...I have escape as a response