X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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Dill Doe Feb 5, 2023 @ 2:20pm
GPU at 3%, CPU at 100% 0_o
What kind of optimization is this?! I have to play at low graphic settings because the load is on my cpu and my gpu is hardly used by the game? I have an i5 9400F (6 cores) and an rtx 3600 Ti.
Last edited by Dill Doe; Feb 13, 2023 @ 8:09pm
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ΔΙΑΚΟΣΙΑ Feb 5, 2023 @ 2:46pm 
The kind of optimisation for a game that is more CPU (general calculations) heavy than GPU (graphics).
Your processor is also rather slow (2.9 GHz), so it's probably a bottleneck.
TREXINATUX Feb 5, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by //Goplat moved to bad spot//:
The kind of optimisation for a game that is more CPU (general calculations) heavy than GPU (graphics).
Your processor is also rather slow (2.9 GHz), so it's probably a bottleneck.
Yes, that is the base clock speed. Depending on the silicon and system he could have boosted performance. I highly recommend Updating the BIOS and at minimum having 16gb RAM. Britec09 on YouTube has a BIOS guide that explains why and how to update your BIOS.

In addition; I would recommend getting at least a 70's series graphics card or AMD equivalent.
mikemonger Feb 5, 2023 @ 6:53pm 
The game is expansive, but honestly, the graphics aren't really all that advanced. I'm not saying they're bad or anything...just not overly demanding.

CPU is king in this game, because it's constantly tracking literally 10's of thousands of individual objects at all times.

However...last time I looked, it was only hammering one core, which...yeah, that's poor optimization. But I haven't looked since right after initial release. They've been pretty good about updating the engine.
mikemonger Feb 5, 2023 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by TREXINATUX:
Originally posted by //Goplat moved to bad spot//:
The kind of optimisation for a game that is more CPU (general calculations) heavy than GPU (graphics).
Your processor is also rather slow (2.9 GHz), so it's probably a bottleneck.
Yes, that is the base clock speed. Depending on the silicon and system he could have boosted performance. I highly recommend Updating the BIOS and at minimum having 16gb RAM. Britec09 on YouTube has a BIOS guide that explains why and how to update your BIOS.

In addition; I would recommend getting at least a 70's series graphics card or AMD equivalent.

Nah. I'm rocking a 2070 super and playing just fine with max graphics at 4k....until I get into a massive battle with 100+ ships. But it's not my video card choking at that point.
Knottypine Feb 5, 2023 @ 8:09pm 
Originally posted by mikemonger:
Nah. I'm rocking a 2070 super and playing just fine with max graphics at 4k....until I get into a massive battle with 100+ ships. But it's not my video card choking at that point.
It's always interesting to see other players performance. Different configurations and all. I'm running a 3080, i9-12900K, 32 GB DDR5, 2 TB 980 pro M.2. I run at near max settings at 1440p and sometimes have 100+ FPS, but also drop to around 30 FPS during large battles or viewing the map with a lot going on.
Hanalyd Feb 5, 2023 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by TREXINATUX:
Originally posted by //Goplat moved to bad spot//:
The kind of optimisation for a game that is more CPU (general calculations) heavy than GPU (graphics).
Your processor is also rather slow (2.9 GHz), so it's probably a bottleneck.
Yes, that is the base clock speed. Depending on the silicon and system he could have boosted performance. I highly recommend Updating the BIOS and at minimum having 16gb RAM. Britec09 on YouTube has a BIOS guide that explains why and how to update your BIOS.

In addition; I would recommend getting at least a 70's series graphics card or AMD equivalent.

How can you advise a bios update out of the blue with no evidence on what the issue is and without knowing what motherboard he uses.
Makes no sense at all unless you just want to act smart.

Anyway...
X games have always been CPU heavy and the GPU always came second place.
The game just has a lot to process OOS and especially inside the same sector as many other ships.
The GPU is just there to make your game visible and potentially look nice.

So the issue the person has is no issue at all and completely normal.
His problem is just that his CPU is low end.
He should try to close other background applications like virusscanners that scan realtime etc.
Go to Task manager to check CPU heavy apps running in the background and close them.
Last edited by Hanalyd; Feb 5, 2023 @ 8:19pm
Sigma Feb 5, 2023 @ 8:15pm 
Originally posted by Question Everything:
What kind of optimization is this?! I have to play at low graphic settings because the load is on my cpu and my gpu hardly is used by the game? I have an i5 9400F (6 cores) and an rtx 3600 Ti.

so, this game is actually not that intense at all.. its quite old really hence why they are able to do so much.. the problem is the UI haha, you have to go and manually untrack a ton of stuff and youll notice your CPU changing quite alot.. or atleast thats what i was told... I guess by default its tracking a lot
why is it by default tracking a massive amount of data? dunno.. but really you only need to track what you need... and even then some stuff is really unnecessary
CowBoy Feb 5, 2023 @ 11:57pm 
I use AMD5900X and I see that only 4 cores are often 80~100%
The other cores are all idle..
Dill Doe Feb 6, 2023 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by TREXINATUX:
Originally posted by //Goplat moved to bad spot//:
The kind of optimisation for a game that is more CPU (general calculations) heavy than GPU (graphics).
Your processor is also rather slow (2.9 GHz), so it's probably a bottleneck.
Yes, that is the base clock speed. Depending on the silicon and system he could have boosted performance. I highly recommend Updating the BIOS and at minimum having 16gb RAM. Britec09 on YouTube has a BIOS guide that explains why and how to update your BIOS.

In addition; I would recommend getting at least a 70's series graphics card or AMD equivalent.
This game simply requires a LOT of cpu. It won't even touch my gpu. AS I said it hardly uses 5% of it or less. I tried all kinds of graphic settings. I have to lower everything so I can have a decent framerate. I never saw a game like this before. So cpu focused and not optimized on the gpu at all.
Dill Doe Feb 6, 2023 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by Sir Olf:
Originally posted by TREXINATUX:
Yes, that is the base clock speed. Depending on the silicon and system he could have boosted performance. I highly recommend Updating the BIOS and at minimum having 16gb RAM. Britec09 on YouTube has a BIOS guide that explains why and how to update your BIOS.

In addition; I would recommend getting at least a 70's series graphics card or AMD equivalent.

How can you advise a bios update out of the blue with no evidence on what the issue is and without knowing what motherboard he uses.
Makes no sense at all unless you just want to act smart.

Anyway...
X games have always been CPU heavy and the GPU always came second place.
The game just has a lot to process OOS and especially inside the same sector as many other ships.
The GPU is just there to make your game visible and potentially look nice.

So the issue the person has is no issue at all and completely normal.
His problem is just that his CPU is low end.
He should try to close other background applications like virusscanners that scan realtime etc.
Go to Task manager to check CPU heavy apps running in the background and close them.
Yes the i5 9400F is not a high end cpu at all but with 6 cores I usually manage to play every game at ultra settings and good framerate. The only game I had a cpu issue with was Star Citizen. But at least Star Citizen uses my gpu at 85% or more before it's cpu bottlenecked. Maybe it's time to buy a better cpu I suppose. :D
Core Feb 6, 2023 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Question Everything:
What kind of optimization is this?! I have to play at low graphic settings because the load is on my cpu and my gpu hardly is used by the game? I have an i5 9400F (6 cores) and an rtx 3600 Ti.
Neither the majority of the community nor the development/support team have sufficient IQ to make a good suggestion for this. All they will be able to provide is blaming your hardware and start arguing which CPU is better, at best.
So ignore them. Look up how to lower the asteroid draw distance(450km in 6.0, lower that to 20 perhaps) and lower/remove civilian traffic. They should be in some config files. That'll fix your daily CPU problem.
Stations are another story. You'll need a mod to be able to correct that crap. Avoid building megastations if you can't find another solution(like replacing bounding boxes).
Some mods will increase zones and overall game assets. Multiplied by the horror of search algorithms, useless features like undocking/docking swarms and despicable means of travel mechanic of the game, it will get much worse unless you are anywhere below using 12900 for 2x2 excel. So pick your mods carefully.
Also increase your settings to the top, they have nothing to do with this crap; your GFX card and CPU will be able to handle it easily after following the suggestions above.
Last edited by Core; Feb 6, 2023 @ 9:25am
Bo0Mz Feb 6, 2023 @ 4:08am 
you have a 3060ti
you dont need to crank down the graphical settings your problem is the cpu
check its temperature maybe hes overheating and slowing down
Dill Doe Feb 6, 2023 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Bo0Mz:
you have a 3060ti
you dont need to crank down the graphical settings your problem is the cpu
check its temperature maybe hes overheating and slowing down
This is what I find interesting. Even if my GPU isn't used, if I lower the settings I have more frames. Which clearly means that graphics is handled by the cpu instead of the gpu. That's the whole point of the post. The game is not optimized properly. Some of the graphical load goes to the cpu instead of the gpu.
^1Sir^7Campalot Feb 6, 2023 @ 10:50am 
5800X3D (no OC), RX 6800XT (-6% power limit), 32GB RAM (2933MHz), 1440p, grraphic preset very high, no vsync, no AA

The game runs at 90 to 130 FPS on board of one of my chruisers patroling my HQ area. GPU is running at roughly 60%, CPU is running at 30%.
This game benefits a lot from a high single core performance/high boost clock. So an upgrade to a better CPU would improve you experience. Your CPU is from Q1 2019 after all.
If you don't want to, check out the suggesteions from Core one post above.
Dill Doe Feb 6, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by ^1Sir^7Campalot:
5800X3D (no OC), RX 6800XT (-6% power limit), 32GB RAM (2933MHz), 1440p, grraphic preset very high, no vsync, no AA

The game runs at 90 to 130 FPS on board of one of my chruisers patroling my HQ area. GPU is running at roughly 60%, CPU is running at 30%.
This game benefits a lot from a high single core performance/high boost clock. So an upgrade to a better CPU would improve you experience. Your CPU is from Q1 2019 after all.
If you don't want to, check out the suggestions from Core one post above.
APparently I'll have to buy a new cpu/motherboard since I can't play neither X4 nor Star Citizen because of it.
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