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Best L trader?
What’s the best large trader and are L traders even worth it? I have 1 L argon trader and it moves so slow doing manual trades. Maybe 1 trade per 30 min.
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Bert (Banned) Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:37am 
No, Autotraders are not worth it.

Progress is :

Crystal Hunt -> Autominer -> More Autominers -> Station

OR

Crystal Hunt -> 4x M Tradeships filled with Marines -> Capture and sell Cap Ships
Last edited by Bert; Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:39am
Chief Smackahoe Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:42am 
No auto traders yet. I’m only 30hrs into my play through no lvl 3 pilots yet. I have not yet tried to cap a ship but it’s on my to do list. Currently have 8 autominers and 2 stations
Harrison Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:50am 
I find the paranid L trade ships to be much faster and use them for manual trades. I usually keep a few Argon and Teladi L traders around as well for the times I bulk more than speed.
Axeface Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:54am 
Autotraders help the economy...

The Buffalo is the best imo! With mods you can get it to be really quite fast in travel mode.
OZZO Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:56am 
With the split expansion I scrapped all Paranid traders and built a fleet of Boa and a fleet of Buffalo, M and L traders. They are very fast, I like the speed at which they execute orders. They have low cargo but if you notice, traders never travel full so Shuyaku for example is not optimally used anyway.
Chief Smackahoe Apr 20, 2020 @ 8:00am 
What are you guys using L traders for? Just auto traders? I’m at the point where Im focusing more on combat while my auto miners and stations make me money. Would you recommend M traders for station auto traders?
gigastar Apr 20, 2020 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Cheif Smackahoe:
What are you guys using L traders for? Just auto traders? I’m at the point where Im focusing more on combat while my auto miners and stations make me money. Would you recommend M traders for station auto traders?
Personally i use L traders as station traders to supply my wharfs and shipyards, and for manually supplying station construction.

I cant recommend using them using them to auto sell though as they have a tendency to make trades that dont make good use of their cargo capacity. That and Ms are generally so much faster.
ale Apr 20, 2020 @ 8:25am 
Since L traders depends on travelling speed to move around fast. I stick to paranis ships.
Knightwolf Apr 20, 2020 @ 8:45am 
The game has a tool to compare ships on the encyclopedia page and 3rd tab down on left.
rodionivanov Apr 20, 2020 @ 9:41am 
dont trade with L ships beyond 2 sectors
do manual trade , use fitler to sort out whats being bought in large numbers
use scout/satelite to see updated offers
lets say you got 20000 hull products in demand by npc wharf
load em bad boys up , que em up for several runs and rack MILLIONS !!!
use Shuyaku ( faster less cargo ) or Incarcatura
ohh secure certain areas where might be pirates with partols pref destoyer or 2 and some S ships

just right now got a buffalo and incarcatura together, found a big order on silicon wafers. buffalo was doing 370k on 1 run and inca 1 mil +
Last edited by rodionivanov; Apr 20, 2020 @ 11:41am
ExavierMacbeth Apr 20, 2020 @ 4:02pm 
I usually prefer two types of L Traders...
The Buffalo (Split) for any automatic trades (Trader or Station Assigned) because auto never fully utalizes cargo space & it is both fast and well defended against minor hazards.

The Incarcatura Sentinel (Antigone) for manual station building because it has the biggest cargo hold I could find. The thing may take forever to perform its job but its less tedious to use when manually filling Build Storage for new stations (as I usually produce all the parts myself & can't seem to get Build Storage to respect faction trading bans).

If I need an L Trader before I can aquire either of those, I usually go with one of the Teladi ones since I like the way they look :P
Last edited by ExavierMacbeth; Apr 20, 2020 @ 4:03pm
Defektiv Apr 20, 2020 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by Axeface:
Autotraders help the economy...

The Buffalo is the best imo! With mods you can get it to be really quite fast in travel mode.

Pretty much this. They only produce a trickle of income, which is only useful in the very beginning to make money. After that they work better to help a sector build its economy, which is great if you want to indirectly help a faction hold their space without angering their enemy.

Build food and medical supplies in a factory at first. It's cheap and will feed the workforce as you add more production lines or build more stations. Advanced Electronics and Claytronics are the real money makers, although Claytronics takes a pretty heavy initial investment to get into. Eventually ship building is where its at. You can mark up sales to other factions 150% and they line up all day to pay millions for small fighters and miners.

Only about 1/3 staffed and this thing already makes me so much money. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2068654072
Wraith Apr 20, 2020 @ 4:23pm 
I use L trader for distribute wares.
Not for making a profit but for distributing certain good around the systems

Auto traders don't fill up goods which I find bad if your using an L size Trader Ship but distribute wares do fill up cargo so I find it good for L size Trader Ship
Last edited by Wraith; Apr 20, 2020 @ 4:24pm
Defektiv Apr 20, 2020 @ 4:44pm 
For sure. Freighters good for big tasks but use M transporters for trade ships. Two M traders can move almost as much as one L class, but they'll do it a lot faster and more efficiently. And they'll escape pirates most of the time.
Malkuth Apr 20, 2020 @ 5:19pm 
In my old game, I used a large trader manually. Just use the trade filter to buy something cheap, than when it was done I would use trade filter to sell it. At least this way your using as much of the storage as possible.

I would sometimes make 1-3 million per sale. Sometimes. Other times only 100k to 500k.

Gave it up once stations started making me tons, wasn’t worth the time. Basic pocket change.
Last edited by Malkuth; Apr 20, 2020 @ 5:20pm
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