Wipe out the Vigor Syndicate?

[Duke Flapjack]

They are scum and I don't like them. Is there any reason you can't just wipe them out after dealing with Northriver? I really don't want to give them any money and would rather give their sectors to more friendly factions (hopefully the Tidebreakers, but I'm not holding my breath they'd actually move in).

[Wolfsblut]

have you finsihed the plot of the syndicate? each race has a plot (yaki as well and some unvisible once you get later on when finishing others!)
for exsample you can do the split plot and later on (i defend the zyarth) you get a new race in the frinedship section of another race which seems to spplit the split race of FRF ships.

[The Big Brzezinski]

I'm sure Asgards are fine so long as you're using them as part of a strategy, not as a strategy.

[Oddible]

Absolutely my opinion. All Terran ships are poorly designed to be a win button for the player. Not a fan. At least the Split ships had a weakness. Or in the case of the Raptor just insanely expensive (and still has the Split weakness, big hull but tiny shields).

Even the Katana is basically the Skunk from Rebirth. Super fun but absurdly OP. If I can easily take out any destroyer in the game with a solo corvette, the balance is borked.

[Duke Flapjack]

Originally posted by Wolfsblut:

have you finsihed the plot of the syndicate? each race has a plot (yaki as well and some unvisible once you get later on when finishing others!)
for exsample you can do the split plot and later on (i defend the zyarth) you get a new race in the frinedship section of another race which seems to spplit the split race of FRF ships.

I'm actually sitting on the last mission where you have to beat up on Northriver because I want to get my battleship online first. That's taking some time.

[Wolfsblut]

Originally posted by Duke Flapjack:

Originally posted by Wolfsblut:

have you finsihed the plot of the syndicate? each race has a plot (yaki as well and some unvisible once you get later on when finishing others!)
for exsample you can do the split plot and later on (i defend the zyarth) you get a new race in the frinedship section of another race which seems to spplit the split race of FRF ships.

I'm actually sitting on the last mission where you have to beat up on Northriver because I want to get my battleship online first. That's taking some time.

if i remember correctly vigor is inactive after that anyway.. at least they dont do anything in my savegame since about 400 hours playing. was one of the first plots i finished if not the even the first one. at early game they´re barbarossa is nasty killer for player ships. always those plünderer ships in the game when you do not have enough rep they will kill your ships :(

[ShadowGames]

So high enough reputation with Vigor prevents these ambushes?

[Wolfsblut]

Originally posted by ShadowGames:

So high enough reputation with Vigor prevents these ambushes?

befrined with the pirate fractions PGS you start with -15 but can trade it up to +30 easly. and if you hunt down they destoyers and ovetake em they will leave you alone cuz they dont want you to overtake all destoryers at a time anymore. (hunt the PGS pirate destoyers almost no regrets after 21+ rep for PGS fraction)

there is also a terraforming mission for green plate i think... well the discription says you can reduce pirates with the terraforming just give the PHQ 1 type of each station and wait for 5 weeks. no problem terraforming while building up stations i just tried that with new game +, though i had 100mio start credits worth of ownings. but yeah get a working station/mining ships and you get credits real fast and can reduce/overtake pirates.. you will make profits while doing those tbh.

hope that helps a bit.

[~moep~]

just a question related to the topic:
will the Vigor Syndicate ever STOP TRYING BUILDING STATIONS in their former sectors ???

i wiped them out a while ago, but they always try to reestablish their power. they should rather accept their loss of stations and sectors, instead of bother to waste money and resources. they cant compete with my swarms of katanas anyway, no matter how much S-class ships they would spam. =/

[Wolfsblut]

Originally posted by ~remoeped~:

just a question related to the topic:
will the Vigor Syndicate ever STOP TRYING BUILDING STATIONS in their former sectors ???

i wiped them out a while ago, but they always try to reestablish their power. they should rather accept their loss of stations and sectors, instead of bother to waste money and resources. they cant compete with my swarms of katanas anyway, no matter how much S-class ships they would spam. =/

they will give up if you patrol the sectors with fleets. at a point they dont build anymore after a few tries. (or mybe the destoyers kill those stations) that is how i did it.

[~moep~]

well, i destroyed already more than 50 new building sites, it seems they didnt get the idea of it^^..
did you got a message from them, like "yay, allright - we give up finally! :(" or something?
anyway, i keep destroying what i can detect from VIG, there is no safe place for this scum in my universe.

[Gorm]

Originally posted by Duke Flapjack:

They are scum and I don't like them. Is there any reason you can't just wipe them out after dealing with Northriver? I really don't want to give them any money and would rather give their sectors to more friendly factions (hopefully the Tidebreakers, but I'm not holding my breath they'd actually move in).

They are my primary faction and you'd better leave them alone.

We'll get'cha!

[Duke Flapjack]

Just as an FYI Dynamic Wars works wonders here as it has options to adjust relationships. If you can get everybody who owns builder ships to dislike VIG they'll give up rebuilding (at least until the mod dynamically gets VIG friendly with somebody, but that potentially never happens).

[Duke Flapjack]

Originally posted by Gorm:

Originally posted by Duke Flapjack:

They are scum and I don't like them. Is there any reason you can't just wipe them out after dealing with Northriver? I really don't want to give them any money and would rather give their sectors to more friendly factions (hopefully the Tidebreakers, but I'm not holding my breath they'd actually move in).

They are my primary faction and you'd better leave them alone.

We'll get'cha!

I'd like to see you try. You've got trash ships cobbled together in somebody's space garage, no M-size anything, and a battleship you can't make work. I've got the military-industrial might of Earth.