X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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dragonslayer Jun 15, 2022 @ 10:53am
Alien looking ships
Looking to buy this but I want to know if X4 has enough of alien looking ships. X3TC had such amazing designs with ships that felt like they actually belong to another alien race with distinct styles. I wouldn't like too much of humanoid looking ships like you see in Elite Dangerous. X series always had a nice mix of both. Btw- are Argon ships good looking too? Idk if I can explain this any better. Hope devs go in this direction as time goes on.
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Ebyl Jun 15, 2022 @ 11:11am 
Well, I'm sure we'll get the Boron at some point, and their ships are typically very different looking (more organic), Your best bet is to just go through images of the various ships in X4 and see what you think.
Caedes91 Jun 15, 2022 @ 11:36am 
In my opinion, only the Split and Terran ships are servicable. The basegame ships on the other hand are too nonsensical in design and remain so since release. Only recently did they redesign some paranid ships, which blatantly were asset flips from X3. The Paranid of all races, the super intelligent math geniuses supposedly fly hair dryer ships.

They get a thanks, but no praise for fixing something, that should have never happened in the first place. In general a huge step back from the Rebirth ship designs you couldn't fly in that game.

According to lore, the factions were splintered for a long time due to the jumpgate shutdown. This led to each race spawning 2 factions. Yet after all this time, their ships are just copy paste with the only difference in name. Vanguard or Sentinel for each sub-faction versions. The DLC realized this nonsense and got rid of the idea of having literally the same ship, but slightly different stats and name.

Don't bother with ToA. Not only does it offer less for the same price as previous DLC, The few ships, that were added are ugly for the sake of being ugly. Gameplay-wise it adds nothing of value. Only exists to strongarm players, who want to roleplay as salvagers no matter what, to buy it for access to a sector, that produces 1000% sunlight for recycling. Otherwise you need a ♥♥♥♥ ton of solar power panels, for just one recycling module. We are talking of hundreds. And big capital ship wreck recycling is only possible with a specific ship from the DLC, so effectively something so obvious, every reasonable race would do, is paywalled.

The DLC faction also spawns hundreds of small fighters, tanking performance even further than the persisting wrecks for recyling already do.
dragonslayer Jun 15, 2022 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Ebyl:
Well, I'm sure we'll get the Boron at some point, and their ships are typically very different looking (more organic), Your best bet is to just go through images of the various ships in X4 and see what you think.
I'd rather not spoil anything and experience it first hand in game. How would you compare this aspect between X3 and X4? Does x4 have interesting, various designs? I really liked Paranid, Xenon and Split ships in X3... When I say ''alien-like'' design I also think of every design that's unusual, unorthodox and fits sci-fi setting very well, basically I wouldn't like too much of ships that look like human aircraft or space shuttles. They don't need to resemble just Boron ones but you know-have interesting look. Although Boron DLC would be most welcomed.
StormhawkV Jun 15, 2022 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by dragonslayer:
I'd rather not spoil anything and experience it first hand in game. How would you compare this aspect between X3 and X4? Does x4 have interesting, various designs? I really liked Paranid, Xenon and Split ships in X3... When I say ''alien-like'' design I also think of every design that's unusual, unorthodox and fits sci-fi setting very well, basically I wouldn't like too much of ships that look like human aircraft or space shuttles. They don't need to resemble just Boron ones but you know-have interesting look. Although Boron DLC would be most welcomed.

Imo this aspect was more fleshed out in X3. X4 has less ships, the differences in design between the different species aren't as pronounced (both looks and stats) and then there are only very few ships you will consider to fly yourself (because of stats).
Mythos Jun 15, 2022 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by dragonslayer:
Looking to buy this but I want to know if X4 has enough of alien looking ships. X3TC had such amazing designs with ships that felt like they actually belong to another alien race with distinct styles. I wouldn't like too much of humanoid looking ships like you see in Elite Dangerous. X series always had a nice mix of both. Btw- are Argon ships good looking too? Idk if I can explain this any better. Hope devs go in this direction as time goes on.
There are a lot of ship mods my dude. I recommend looking through them in the workshop.
noviastar Jun 16, 2022 @ 12:55am 
There is a mod for some of the older X3 ships.
hurepoix Jun 16, 2022 @ 1:33am 
X3 ships graphism has not aged well. I remember a mod that allowed X3 valhalla for x4, my eyes were crying blood.
StormhawkV Jun 16, 2022 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by hurepoix:
X3 ships graphism has not aged well. I remember a mod that allowed X3 valhalla for x4, my eyes were crying blood.

Ofc the graphics are more advanced these days. Doesn't change the fact that X4's ship design is... uninspired at most, not just visually.
dragonslayer Jun 16, 2022 @ 11:41am 
Sometimes I have trouble expressing myself, what I wanted to say and know if ships have interesting, out of ordinary sci-fi designs like they're not created by humans... For instance like this:

https://eng.x3tc.net/screenshot/ship.php?NDc1NTI1NzE

https://eng.x3tc.net/screenshot/ship.php?MjcyMzY5MDc

https://eng.x3tc.net/screenshot/ship.php?NjkyMTI0Mw

https://eng.x3tc.net/screenshot/ship.php?MTk4MjQ0MzU

They certainly don't feel humanly designed... Yes-that's the word I was looking for- humanly designed.
StormhawkV Jun 16, 2022 @ 1:02pm 
Well, imo the alien ships in X4 look less alien compared to X3 if that's what you mean.
Zloth Jun 16, 2022 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by dragonslayer:
They certainly don't feel humanly designed... Yes-that's the word I was looking for- humanly designed.
They were, in fact, designed by a human. Or maybe a few humans. ;)

There are plenty of eccentric designs. Heck, the starting ship for the Genesis start of the Terrans is fairly odd looking.
SpaceToast Jun 16, 2022 @ 6:04pm 
No real 'alien' looking ships, borons would sorta fix this but im losing hope.
hurepoix Jun 17, 2022 @ 12:51am 
Xenons s fighters M and N may enter in this category

I feel xenon I good looking. Call it alien looking depend of people taste I presume.
StormhawkV Jun 17, 2022 @ 2:26am 
There was no need to change the design of Xenon ships. Now we have the N and M that look almost exactly like those from previous titles and the P and K that look like trilobites. They should have either left them alone or redesign them all. The bigger issue is the lack of Xenon ship models and their capital ships' awful balancing though.
Duke Flapjack Jun 17, 2022 @ 6:59pm 
I always very much disliked most of the X3TC designs. XR actually had my absolute favorite ship designs. They didn't have all those weird spinny bits and were actually decently proportioned. They weren't squished lengthwise like most of the X3 capital ships. I do have to admit I miss the Teladi flying junkyards.
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