What does the Casino and Gambling Den do for you?

[jpinard]

Having trouble seeing exactly what they do and if it's worth the cost?

[CBuHoPeZ]

Nothing, Just a decoration

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by Afr:

Nothing, Just a decoration

i need to correct that statement.

the Den and Casino increase the grow rate of your Population on STations that have them Attached.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

Originally posted by Afr:

Nothing, Just a decoration

i need to correct that statement.

the Den and Casino increase the grow rate of your Population on STations that have them Attached.

Is the grow rate normally slow enough that it justifies building them?

[Sola Di Ryuvia]

Originally posted by jpinard:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

i need to correct that statement.

the Den and Casino increase the grow rate of your Population on STations that have them Attached.

Is the grow rate normally slow enough that it justifies building them?

on a shipyard or equipment dock probably yeah, anything else no.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by Sola Di Ryuvia:

Originally posted by jpinard:

Is the grow rate normally slow enough that it justifies building them?

on a shipyard or equipment dock probably yeah, anything else no.

OK thanks!

[Dunkler Messias]

I just want to add that the bonus from these are pretty small.
If you want high and fast growing population, consider building the wharf/shipyard in a sector with a high sector workforce availability bonus. https://i.imgur.com/FksfONY.png

The welfare modules are only needed if you build stations in a sector without a planet with population. So no workforce availability bonus.

Also don't forget that you gan build habitats for each race, so you get workforce even faster. But again, with a sector workforce availability bonus of over 500 % you don't really need to worry about that. :-)

[Duke Flapjack]

They should have been given a basic credit gain buff. I was a bit disappointed that you couldn't actually DO anything there. I have memories of taking all the bottlecaps the casinos were worth in Fallout 2's New Reno.

[eMYNOCK]

before this conversation goes into that direction again...
there were plans to make interesting stuff in those modules but the main investor of the DLC simply said.

"no, thats not gonna happen."

if anyone is willing to mod interesting stuff however...

[Pathogenic]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

before this conversation goes into that direction again...
there were plans to make interesting stuff in those modules but the main investor of the DLC simply said.

"no, thats not gonna happen."

if anyone is willing to mod interesting stuff however...

The main investor being the German government? They didn't like the idea of gambling minigames in the casino?

[Sola Di Ryuvia]

Originally posted by Pathogenic:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

before this conversation goes into that direction again...
there were plans to make interesting stuff in those modules but the main investor of the DLC simply said.

"no, thats not gonna happen."

if anyone is willing to mod interesting stuff however...

The main investor being the German government? They didn't like the idea of gambling minigames in the casino?

This is kinda interesting, the old thing eMYNOCK stated was was simply Egosoft didn't want to do an age rating change on X4.
"there may be many different ways... one of wich would be allowing a Modder to do it.

all other ways would require a change of the Age Rating.

this is not up to debate, i don't make the Laws.

how ever, i wish you good luck convincing my government to change them... some of them are medieval."

Knowing that the German government just plain out said no now is a much better reason tbh, though it is very saddening. My condolences to you guys. Maybe one day Germany will allow gambling in games in the future?

[Daddy Shark]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

before this conversation goes into that direction again...
there were plans to make interesting stuff in those modules but the main investor of the DLC simply said.

"no, thats not gonna happen."

if anyone is willing to mod interesting stuff however...

That's a pretty cheap copout. DLC's dont change the age rating of the main game.

I mean those modules are a complete pain to get and they're basically useless. They do nothing.

I've been working my way through the ToA expansion lately and it just isn't very good. The new zones are boring and nonsensical. The one interesting thing is the Eye and it's stuck in a place where your AI traders can't get to it. The new ware type is only useful in three new sectors and that's it. The new ships suck and the one battleship you only get one of.

Being able to play slots and blackjack in your own casino would have at least added in a little fun, but we all know fun is strictly verboten in X games.

[eMYNOCK]

the core statement was:
slap a 18+ on it and we won't fund it.

same effect as the "it's not gonna happen", i just left the tiny 18+ detail out.

also, while we are on that matter, germany don't even allows the majority of adult focussed contents... so, for us they are Region locked and simply not available.


though, i suggest that we don't digress further.

[🎮 PalkoVvodets 🔑]

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[Asmosis]

If a blanket ban on gambling in games also means loot boxes are illegal, then I'm all for it in any countries that will support it. It's a small price to pay to prevent the predatory activities of some companies *cough*EA*cough* targeting vulnerable people.

[Pathogenic]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

the core statement was:
slap a 18+ on it and we won't fund it.

same effect as the "it's not gonna happen", i just left the tiny 18+ detail out.

also, while we are on that matter, germany don't even allows the majority of adult focussed contents... so, for us they are Region locked and simply not available.


though, i suggest that we don't digress further.

I'm glad Egosoft is not going for an 18+ game. I wouldn't buy it if it was, we have a household policy of no M rated games.