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Cybes Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:56am
Q; Rotate entire station plan?
I know how to rotate the plot, components, and sequences - that's not my question.

I want to rotate the entire station plan within the plot. When loading a saved plan they often load in completely the wrong facing, and I have to rebuild anything that's detached from the root object.

I've done several websearches with various search terms, and don't turn up anything but modules and plots, and I can't believe nobody has even asked the question, so I'm pretty sure my googlefu just sucks.

Does anyone know if this can be done? And if so, how?
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If all your modules joined via specific predefined connecection spots. You can rotate first module in the chain and all other modules will rotate respectively.
Also if I'm not mistaken loading saved plan consider plot rotation. Thus you can rotate plot and then load the station plan.
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Cybes Sep 7, 2022 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by 🎮 PalkoVvodets 🔑:
If all your modules joined via specific predefined connecection spots. You can rotate first module in the chain and all other modules will rotate respectively.

Yes, hence my noting that anything detached from the root object needed to be rebuilt.

Originally posted by 🎮 PalkoVvodets 🔑:
Also if I'm not mistaken loading saved plan consider plot rotation. Thus you can rotate plot and then load the station plan.

Well, that could well be - it might explain why it's not always wrong. But how can I know before placing the plan which way the plot is oriented? I haven't noticed any facing marks on them.
Originally posted by Cybes:
But how can I know before placing the plan which way the plot is oriented? I haven't noticed any facing marks on them.
I'm pretty sure all plots defaulted for rotation. You can try to recall if you ever rotated etalon plot and for what degree. If you dont remember just rotate plot at 90 degree and experiment with loaded plan input. Dont forget to keep "show environment" option selected (or whatever it called)
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Cybes Sep 7, 2022 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by 🎮 PalkoVvodets 🔑:
I'm pretty sure they all plots defaulted for rotation. You can try to recall if you ever rotated etalon plot and for what degree. If you dont remember just rotate plot at 90 degree and experiment with loaded plan input. Dont forget to keep "show environment" option selected (or whatever it called)

If they default to a set facing, I don't know what it's relative to - it sure isn't camera orientation or the local sun location.

Thanks for the replies, anyway. :steamthumbsup: I'll tackle some experiments on this after some sleep.
eMYNOCK  [developer] Sep 7, 2022 @ 12:13pm 
the modules inside a plot default to the direction the "north" of that plot is facing it self.

so, if you build and save all your blueprints facing the upwards direction of the plot they will always face that way when you load them.

you can influence the direction into wich a finalised station will face by rotating the "north" side of said plot into the direction you want the modules facing.

needs a tiny bit of practie first but once you know how to rotate a plot before starting a staton it gets easier and easier.
Cybes Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by eMYNOCK:
the modules inside a plot default to the direction the "north" of that plot is facing it self.

Ok, that's useful to know. Thanks! But... Which 'north', exactly?
- The map loads by default with the Terrans in the 'southwest' as I would normally interpret it, but I'm not aware of it actually having a direction reference. The whole thing is freely rotateable, and the cell/sector names reorient to whatever facing lets the text be closest to right-side-up.
- When I start a new plot, it more often than not appears diagonally (like a diamond shape). If we're talking 'plot north', which is it now: left or right?

X games, man... Potentially so much fun, but an unprecedented number of head-desk moments.
eMYNOCK  [developer] Sep 8, 2022 @ 1:37am 
how to explain... when you first place down a Station Plot you can rotate and move it aroud as you like.

for me the "north" of an empty plot is the side that is originally facing to the left, so i always rotate this left side (my north) were i want the docking Modules etc. to face.

for you this would be similar, the side you decide that is the primary direction when in top down view inside the Station Build Screen will be your personal "north".

all you have to do is to memorize how a station looks in this top down view and you can rotate the empty plot accordingly before loading your blueprint.
Mate, just rotate plot and few times load the station plan. You'll understand all yourself. Its a matter of seconds, may be few minures.
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