[Not Official Thread]Egosoft is (probably) working on X5 at the moment, what do you like to see in the new game?

[doru]

Edit 2023: because some people may think this is an official thread with requests for feedback from egosoft. I'm not working fore egosoft and I'm just a player like everyone else.

Said that, I'm 100% convinced they work on X5. No doubt about it for me.

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Original post:

I would like to see the current ships more different, the modules should be more different visually, For example the engines, after many hours of play they still look the same to me. So have them them better integrated in the ship design/color. There is no point in having the engines naked as they are now. Just put some panels that fit the overall ship design on top.

Obviously new ships, but for all of them, have better interiors. You should be able to visit and interact with the various modules. Like ship cargo and where the crew is working. Better if there is some gameplay elements attached to these interiors. Heck, extend that to station modules. One could visit a claytronics factory see what they are doing there.

But if not possible to create them different and functional, instead of having them generic then best to have more ships/modules with no interiors than fewer ships/modules with interiors.

Also, better characters models, these are awful as they are now.

Planetary modules/factories. This could be nice.

Integrate some nice plot elements about ancient civilizations or something similar with mass effect that we can discover on planets. I like the exploration part of finding vaults from the current game, but once you do a couple of them is not fun anymore. Especially the vaults with all those locks that you never know where they are.

Maybe some new enemy, some far away never seen before race that may or may not be friendly.

Or you could take the current AI races and make them be playable for the player. See if you can take over the whole systems without having any allies from the normal races. These races could have some method to steal other factions ships and stations. Replacing the crew with AI.

[Malakie]

Wolfsblut の投稿を引用：

Wandering Mania の投稿を引用：

Well 20 pages is one thing. 5 or 6 posts is an entirely different thing. I mean, it's like he butted into the middle of an active conversation, then started making assumptions about what was said in the entire thread.

One wouldn't do that in a social gathering in the real world, and there's no recorded logs to read; So why people have to do that so often online is beyond me.

true words, couldnt say that better.

Wandering Mania の投稿を引用：

The ones with my 'Mega-Factories' do. But mostly just around those factories. I basically build one factory per item; But that item has like 4 to 10** unit fabricators on it. So they demand a lot, but they also produce a lot. Usually the population to run them is around 5,000 to 15,000. My shipyard actually looks like one of the 'City Stations' from X: Rebirth, it's just that big.

**Depending on the output, and how much I need of the item. Solar plants are a whole other story, as everything requires energy cells; So I place a good 20 - 50 solar panels each solar plant. And I build more than one.

sounds really big. would love to see them in a stream somewhere :Niko2:

I stream usually a few times a week, X4 fully. Using the Tobii eye and head tracking plus over 100 mods and all current DLC's. I have some pretty large stations, am constantly involved in major fleet battles and own around a dozen sectors or more. Long running game.

You can catch the stream at either:

www.navy.gg/malakie
or
www.twitch.tv/malakie

[Wandering Mania]

Wolfsblut の投稿を引用：

that let´s me think, i should invest time into make my complexes looking this good. wow, great work, looks kinda like art.

I actually ended up having to add 4 more docking piers (12 slots with the 3 pier ones) connected to the 4 sides of that top storage. Large ships where getting heavily backed up, and it started looking like Chicago O'Hare Airport.

Edit: Here's a picture of the increased capacity addition:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2918851590

[dEAdOnE77]

What starts to show its shortcomings is the sectoredesign. I never realy have the sence of present, i m just in the next sector. Sure we have bigger and nicer sectors now, but a more freeform design based on solarsystems would be awsome.

[doru]

Malakie の投稿を引用：

News to me. Last I knew they were working on both a new DLC to be released soon and some other things for X4 they have not even announced yet.

I want to clarify that the devs get from the government around 300k for dlcs. (this was for the pirate themed one for example, the last dlc) could be that they got another 300k for a new dlc after I've created this thread.

the "X5" I'm talking about is the 2.5 million grant. That is not a grant for a dlc. either they are working on X5 or maybe a new game no one knows about. But is more likely they work on X5

When this game will be released? My prediction is maybe late 2024. Meanwhile they will release a new dlc for X4. When? Probably September this year. At worse December.

[Wandering Mania]

dEAdOnE77 の投稿を引用：

What starts to show its shortcomings is the sectoredesign. I never realy have the sence of present, i m just in the next sector. Sure we have bigger and nicer sectors now, but a more freeform design based on solarsystems would be awsome.

That would be nice. Especially with the Sol system looking more like a couple of star clusters, as it does now. I mean, why do they need warp gates to each sector? When a highway, and superhighways would look, and fit, a lot better.

Also Earth/The Moon not being directly connected to Mars makes no sense either. Sure, strategically it does, but logistically there's no point to doing that. They have defense fleets protecting the 'Inner core' anyway; So why not connect them?

[Malakie]

doru の投稿を引用：

Malakie の投稿を引用：

News to me. Last I knew they were working on both a new DLC to be released soon and some other things for X4 they have not even announced yet.

I want to clarify that the devs get from the government around 300k for dlcs. (this was for the pirate themed one for example, the last dlc) could be that they got another 300k for a new dlc after I've created this thread.

the "X5" I'm talking about is the 2.5 million grant. That is not a grant for a dlc. either they are working on X5 or maybe a new game no one knows about. But is more likely they work on X5

When this game will be released? My prediction is maybe late 2024. Meanwhile they will release a new dlc for X4. When? Probably September this year. At worse December.

Odd because public disclosure was $1 million, not 2.5 million - if that changed, great but you STILL have no idea what you are talking about. You speculate a lot about something you do not have ANY information about. NONE of us do. They could be using that money to hire people or build offices so they can better support X4. Or maybe they are using that money to further the co-op ventures system they have said they ARE working on but not ready to talk about any time soon... They don't need an X5 right now because they are still in full support and development of X4 and the new engine.

But the main point is, we don't know and YOU don't know... at all. For you to act like it is fact, well, you should rethink that path because it is annoying.

[Alith-Ahnar]

Wandering Mania の投稿を引用：

dEAdOnE77 の投稿を引用：

What starts to show its shortcomings is the sectoredesign. I never realy have the sence of present, i m just in the next sector. Sure we have bigger and nicer sectors now, but a more freeform design based on solarsystems would be awsome.

That would be nice. Especially with the Sol system looking more like a couple of star clusters, as it does now. I mean, why do they need warp gates to each sector? When a highway, and superhighways would look, and fit, a lot better.

Also Earth/The Moon not being directly connected to Mars makes no sense either. Sure, strategically it does, but logistically there's no point to doing that. They have defense fleets protecting the 'Inner core' anyway; So why not connect them?

Those are no (Warp)Gates, those are accelerator a Terran invention,
pretty much a Giant Slingshot at one End and a Glove to catch you.

[SirProsik]

I know they are working on X5. Why because it has been almost 5 years since X4 was released. At least 2 people are working actively on X5 right now and for the last 2 years they have been compiling our 'wants and needs' we all post about X4. That poll they just showed us about 'details' like how many users play with mouse and keyboard for instance are factored in to how much time they will spend on 'targeting and bore sight fire' (broken since before X3 reunion because of a poll!!!) for those of us that use flight sticks and other accessories.

[doru]

Malakie の投稿を引用：

but you STILL have no idea what you are talking about.

chill up dude.

[Wolfsblut]

Malakie の投稿を引用：

I stream usually a few times a week, X4 fully. Using the Tobii eye and head tracking plus over 100 mods and all current DLC's. I have some pretty large stations, am constantly involved in major fleet battles and own around a dozen sectors or more. Long running game.

You can catch the stream at either:

www.navy.gg/malakie
or
www.twitch.tv/malakie

i just clicked the <3 on your channel.

https://www.twitch.tv/wolfsblutnp/videos that my channel. i currently mostly do terraforming and some building of all races complexes in each sectors so yeah. too much activity isnt there as terraforming goes... (waiting and delivering , for hours or days)

Wandering Mania の投稿を引用：

I actually ended up having to add 4 more docking piers (12 slots with the 3 pier ones) connected to the 4 sides of that top storage. Large ships where getting heavily backed up, and it started looking like Chicago O'Hare Airport.

Edit: Here's a picture of the increased capacity addition:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2918851590

idk why but somehow that shot would do great on a wall with the asteroid in background and they shadows... (150cm h X 200cm l)
i really need to take a shot of my own complexes to share with you. they dont look that cool... but you will see for yourself if i take some shots today maybe for sharing them.

dEAdOnE77 の投稿を引用：

What starts to show its shortcomings is the sectoredesign. I never realy have the sence of present, i m just in the next sector. Sure we have bigger and nicer sectors now, but a more freeform design based on solarsystems would be awsome.

yes i get what you mean. x rebirth had something spezial about its sectors in that i think. that was the first difference to me in X4 the sectors got de-colored i think. x rebirth was always high colors...x4 i just have that fainty blue/green/gray and such..nothing vididly as rebirth had.

Wandering Mania の投稿を引用：

dEAdOnE77 の投稿を引用：

What starts to show its shortcomings is the sectoredesign. I never realy have the sence of present, i m just in the next sector. Sure we have bigger and nicer sectors now, but a more freeform design based on solarsystems would be awsome.

That would be nice. Especially with the Sol system looking more like a couple of star clusters, as it does now. I mean, why do they need warp gates to each sector? When a highway, and superhighways would look, and fit, a lot better.

Also Earth/The Moon not being directly connected to Mars makes no sense either. Sure, strategically it does, but logistically there's no point to doing that. They have defense fleets protecting the 'Inner core' anyway; So why not connect them?

the highways in foundation also only warps i think. in rebirth they were realtime connected. that is something i do miss. though... the universe was like 4 foundation sectors in total (in feeling it was very small due to that but awesome for sure)

Malakie の投稿を引用：

doru の投稿を引用：

I want to clarify that the devs get from the government around 300k for dlcs. (this was for the pirate themed one for example, the last dlc) could be that they got another 300k for a new dlc after I've created this thread.

the "X5" I'm talking about is the 2.5 million grant. That is not a grant for a dlc. either they are working on X5 or maybe a new game no one knows about. But is more likely they work on X5

When this game will be released? My prediction is maybe late 2024. Meanwhile they will release a new dlc for X4. When? Probably September this year. At worse December.

Odd because public disclosure was $1 million, not 2.5 million - if that changed, great but you STILL have no idea what you are talking about. You speculate a lot about something you do not have ANY information about. NONE of us do. They could be using that money to hire people or build offices so they can better support X4. Or maybe they are using that money to further the co-op ventures system they have said they ARE working on but not ready to talk about any time soon... They don't need an X5 right now because they are still in full support and development of X4 and the new engine.

But the main point is, we don't know and YOU don't know... at all. For you to act like it is fact, well, you should rethink that path because it is annoying.

i really hope coop comes back, i did miss that since i only got in 5.0 into the game. would love to have someone doing unsually things in my universe. i heard a player can change the fate to the others universe by doing some things..

[Daddy Shark]

Dedmoin の投稿を引用：

Well that is my experience based on having quite some discussions going on here in Steam forum (long time ago) and one of the Egosoft Devs drops by and says game decisions are based on player feedback... apparently the feedback didn't come from Steam forum.
And there were a couple of other occassions when similar things happened.

I didn't say Egosoft people are not on Steam. They are just much more active on their own forum. This thread started in May '22 and I guess there was no reply from Egosoft yet?!
Nothing bad about this though. I completely understand this.

Anyways, the point I wanted to make is, if you want to give ideas and wishes to Egosoft, better go to their forum.
Or at least post in both and link those thread.

This is all incorrect. The developers do indeed hang out here quite a bit. eMynock is the "voice" that always talks to us but the rest of the guys are here and they do read almost every thread.

[Wolfsblut]

Wandering Mania の投稿を引用：

Wolfsblut の投稿を引用：

that let´s me think, i should invest time into make my complexes looking this good. wow, great work, looks kinda like art.

I actually ended up having to add 4 more docking piers (12 slots with the 3 pier ones) connected to the 4 sides of that top storage. Large ships where getting heavily backed up, and it started looking like Chicago O'Hare Airport.

Edit: Here's a picture of the increased capacity addition:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2918851590

i just made a shorter video for you.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1709044028
hope you can see and hear me. i did audio commend that (the frist audio commended x4f video in my channel rofl)

[Wandering Mania]

Wolfsblut の投稿を引用：

i just made a shorter video for you.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1709044028
hope you can see and hear me. i did audio commend that (the frist audio commended x4f video in my channel rofl)

Yeah... I dislike twich's stance on, and 'double standard' of, rule enforcement so much, that I refuse to even visit that site.

As soon as they stop giving the 'Chest-acle' streamers the freedom to do what ever they want, while getting nothing more than slaps on the wrist over, and over for some serious rule, and law violations. Let me know.

But until then; They are blacklisted.

[Sir Snuffles]

i want the graphics and unique sector design of x rebirth (is it me or does the graphics in X4 seem worse?)

i want the scale of the universe as X3

and i really super duper want a new playable race/faction

[Wandering Mania]

Sir Snuffles の投稿を引用：

i want the graphics and unique sector design of x rebirth (is it me or does the graphics in X4 seem worse?)

They don't seem any worse to me. But I will admit that the character models have improved 1000%. As there are no more... Grandmas... In... Space!

Sir Snuffles の投稿を引用：

i want the scale of the universe as X3

That would be nice. And it might actually improve performance, with less grouping of ships.
Though I will also admit that the scale is still pretty big. As one can easily tell from this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917552052

Sir Snuffles の投稿を引用：

and i really super duper want a new playable race/faction

Not really sure how they could do that without somehow rewriting some of the established lore. But there are ways I guess.